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Old 03-20-11, 10:41 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen View Post
Well, I was trying to be nice about it, but since that does not seem to have registered, I will be more direct: SubSim.com has had a very friendly relationship with the development team since the days of Silent Hunter 2. There will be no tolerance for the disparagement of the members of the development team. You are free to dislike features of Silent Hunter 5. You are free to complain about them, even loudly if you like. However, you are not free to disparage individuals using pejoratives like 'idiots', 'morons', 'jackasses', et al. I do not care if you think it is true. I do not care if you think it is justified. This policy has been the forum's policy for many years, and will continue to be enforced.

I thank you in advance for your cooperation in this matter.

The Management

EDIT: This is not a simple matter of friendship. SubSim.com is often times the first to get the information concerning releases and if frequently in the loop for insider information. This has been the case due in no small part due to our relationships. We are on very friendly terms with the UbiSoft dev teams. We are on very friendly terms with the Sonalysts dev teams. SubSim is a place where they are treated with respect, both in good times and tough times. They know SubSim as a 'port in the storm', if you will. They like us. And as they like us, they are more willing to cooperate with us. That cooperations helps you, me and everyone else that likes submarine simulations. We simply ask that you bear in mind that this relationship is symbiotic, and we will always look to preserve it. You can do your part in that preservation by respecting our rules.

I agree with you in terms of PRINCIPLES but developer team has finished the history of relationship with fans for now. They won't develop any other patch in the future whatsoever so argumenting "if we are nice to them we have an advantage" does not sustain itself as a logical argument or excuse for their coherency lack of their product. As I explained there is not an attack to a person or a group of persons , it's just aknowledging a FACT that is already REAL (the ladder torpedo uselessness in the game). In other words syntagm "idiot" is targeted to a FACT, an ACTION made by a person who obviously didn't think clear before doing something. I agree it is exagerated/intolerable to insult on a forum a developer team and that this thing is not tolerated. I agree with that. But I disagree taking this out of context of some subject and argumenting after that :"well even if they were idiots we are friends of them and this is why we have to look in the other way, when someone is making a argumented point".
I don't know you and I don't know what you know about making a game. I tell you this: the game project manager (lead) holds responsability even for this kind of mistakes. It's his job to stop them happening. Personally if I was the one responsable for this mistake I wouldn't mind seeing that post. of course , if it is justified and I am an HONEST kind of person.
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