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Old 12-23-10, 05:58 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by DarkFish View Post
Our long history of monarchs and dictators has learned us not to blindly trust the government, and overthrow them if necessary (French revolution, anyone? Republic of the Seven United Netherlands? Russia 1917? Berlin wall?) If there's anything we Europeans understand a lot better than the US, it's that there is no such thing as a "government by the people, for the people and of the people." We have been betrayed too often to believe that anymore Which is why we don't put blind faith in them like you seem to do.
And I'd counter by saying that your European mistrust and disownership of your own governments have never really worked out all that well as the long history of bloody European wars and various pogroms clearly attests.

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You are hoping for revenge. He betrayed the US military, and you hope he will "burn for it". How does that not qualify as revenge?
Because revenge is an act, not a hope! Action versus preference. Do you not understand such a basic difference? It's like me saying that because you seem to dislike our government that you're overthrowing it.

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A suspect is innocent until proven guilty, remember?
Immaterial. That is a standard for those who have to determine a persons guilt or innocence, not the general public. As Americans we're allowed to have our opinions without the nanny state stepping in to tell us what we can or cannot say, unlike you Europeans who can't even state the obvious without being threatened with jail for their troubles.

Oh and I still think OJ did it.

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To most Europeans I know the US reaction on Assange an Manning seems awfully much like it.
Yeah well Europeans have been misunderstanding us and prognosticating our doom for over 200 years. Y'all ain't been right yet.

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A 1 minute google search shows at least these two things.
Hopefully that's not the best you can do! "OMG we collected data on the UN leadership and tried to curry favor by giving aid! Tear down the Statue of Liberty. We are so chagrined!"

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I'm pretty sure there's much more out there (remember that a massive majority of documents hasn't even been released yet) but really don't want to spend more time searching for things the US has done wrong.
No you'd rather make some serious allegations and then not provide any real proof to back them up.
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