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Armistead · 11-09-10, 08:27 AM

If you're playing RSRD, it sets the factors for the crews, poor-elite, not TMO. However, I don't think it effects the sensors of TMO, so still fairly tough.

Have you installed the IJN radar fix by tater, doe's help some as far as them picking you up on radar much further.

In rough water I'll come at the TF straight on between the lead escort and the flank escort, with the goal of turning it to a 45 degree attack. Usually this means I have to shoot at the further line of targets as one line is almost on top of me. Course a few times I've been ran over with my scope up by large ships, so try to be careful.

I seldom have a problem getting my attack off at close range. Usually I'll get pinged or found out soon after. My goal is to get my shots off before I'm found out. I don't dive deep until my attack is done. If I get pinged, I'm gonna stay flank and get my attack off if possible. The only issue I have is being stuck with some bad gyro's, but I've gotten fairly good with them. You can forget most target shooting methods, you stad it, guess where it's going and setup for where you want torp placement and then I'll unlock and shoot by the wire.

Ive never had any luck with all the various shooting methods attacking TF. It sets you to a holding pattern that often places you in front of a DD.

The good thing about RSRD is the TF are more spread out and often a wider escort screen. Often in calm waters I'll let them pick me up on radar so several escorts come a running. When they get about 8000 yards I'll dive and go flank and deep heading to my attack point. Don't let them catch you on radar where you want to shoot from. Usually a group of DD's are in my stern searchin where I dived leaving a flank exposed for me to attack from. Simply I'll be in front of the target about 10nms about 5000 yards off my attack point. I sit there until the escorts come and dive flank deep until I get to my attack point. The goal is to put 3000 yards between my arse and the searching escorts where I dived, then I can usually come up without them finding me.

With cams and contacts off just make sure you mark where you dived and where you want to be when you shoot. The mark where you dived should be where the escorts will be searcing for you. If you can get to your shooting point without being pinged, success. If you're being pinged, hard to know if it's safe to come up when you're stuck in the sub. If they have me on longscale, I'll chance it, shortscale, head for deep water.

Still, best plans can be foiled. Sometimes it's best to wait. The good thing about RSRD is most TF return along the path they came. My biggest mistake is getting greedy, often it works, sometimes not. I've blown some good setups trying to hit say 4 capital ships, when I should've settled for two. My goal is to sink one and atleast damage another so the TF will slow down, making the next end around easier. I'm sure I miss as much as anyone.

I've always found speed and depth to be the factor in living. If you're gonna run at silent at 1kt, your gonna die with TMO.

11-09-10, 08:27 AM	#2
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	If you're playing RSRD, it sets the factors for the crews, poor-elite, not TMO. However, I don't think it effects the sensors of TMO, so still fairly tough. Have you installed the IJN radar fix by tater, doe's help some as far as them picking you up on radar much further. In rough water I'll come at the TF straight on between the lead escort and the flank escort, with the goal of turning it to a 45 degree attack. Usually this means I have to shoot at the further line of targets as one line is almost on top of me. Course a few times I've been ran over with my scope up by large ships, so try to be careful. I seldom have a problem getting my attack off at close range. Usually I'll get pinged or found out soon after. My goal is to get my shots off before I'm found out. I don't dive deep until my attack is done. If I get pinged, I'm gonna stay flank and get my attack off if possible. The only issue I have is being stuck with some bad gyro's, but I've gotten fairly good with them. You can forget most target shooting methods, you stad it, guess where it's going and setup for where you want torp placement and then I'll unlock and shoot by the wire. Ive never had any luck with all the various shooting methods attacking TF. It sets you to a holding pattern that often places you in front of a DD. The good thing about RSRD is the TF are more spread out and often a wider escort screen. Often in calm waters I'll let them pick me up on radar so several escorts come a running. When they get about 8000 yards I'll dive and go flank and deep heading to my attack point. Don't let them catch you on radar where you want to shoot from. Usually a group of DD's are in my stern searchin where I dived leaving a flank exposed for me to attack from. Simply I'll be in front of the target about 10nms about 5000 yards off my attack point. I sit there until the escorts come and dive flank deep until I get to my attack point. The goal is to put 3000 yards between my arse and the searching escorts where I dived, then I can usually come up without them finding me. With cams and contacts off just make sure you mark where you dived and where you want to be when you shoot. The mark where you dived should be where the escorts will be searcing for you. If you can get to your shooting point without being pinged, success. If you're being pinged, hard to know if it's safe to come up when you're stuck in the sub. If they have me on longscale, I'll chance it, shortscale, head for deep water. Still, best plans can be foiled. Sometimes it's best to wait. The good thing about RSRD is most TF return along the path they came. My biggest mistake is getting greedy, often it works, sometimes not. I've blown some good setups trying to hit say 4 capital ships, when I should've settled for two. My goal is to sink one and atleast damage another so the TF will slow down, making the next end around easier. I'm sure I miss as much as anyone. I've always found speed and depth to be the factor in living. If you're gonna run at silent at 1kt, your gonna die with TMO. Last edited by Armistead; 11-09-10 at 08:55 AM.