[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Webster

you must support a monument being built at pearl harbor celebrating the attack on our base there since they would symbolise the exact same purpose for being built, to cellebrate a victory over your enemy.

Already answered that one, and you're way off base.

and you can deny it all you want but this mosque is being built at this site for the sole reason to become a monument to the terrorists victory over america at that site, the Imam said it himself that he chose that site specifically because it would overlook the site of 9/11

Has anyone here actually tried to deny that? You're barking up the wrong tree.

and as for the private money being used to build the mosque, they have no money as of this moment, the Imam has only $18,000 which probably isnt enough to even cover the building permits but it has been reported that the US goverment will give them several million dollars to help build it through a goverment grant program. the remaining money will almost certainly come from terrorist orginazations since the modderate muslum groups have denied to fund it saying it is in bad taste to build there.

If the grant program is legitimate then they have to give it to whoever applies. That's the law. That the other money will "almost certainly" come from a terrorist organization is reprehensible. The problem is that we don't issue permits based on where money "might" come from, or even where it does come from.

do those who speak about this as a religeous tollerance issue really doubt that this building will not be a muslum extremists tourist attraction to come see the site of the great victory over the great satin America. "come to pray to Ala at the very site where our brothers martered themselves for our cause" will be the banner they will hang over the door.

if you cant see this then you should go bring your family on a vacation to Iran and see if your "tollerance" will keep you out of jail or from being beheaded just for being an American. see what the muslum extremists really think about your warm and fuzzy tollerance as they laugh at you.

And that's what I meant when I said you're barking up the wrong tree. Has one person here claimed it was about religious tolerance? Not that I've read. What it's about is whether the New York zoning commission has the legal right to issue the permit. Should they have? Not my call, or yours.

But since you raised the question of tolerance, what do you suggest we do? Drive all muslims from our shores? Act the way they do? Throw out what made America in the first place?

We react to acts that hurt us, not to beliefs that might. We have to prevent attempts on our freedoms, and be vigilant, but do you suggest that include denying religious freedom to those who disagree with us? If they turn violent, fight them. Otherwise you destroy the very thing you're trying to protect.

I oppose this mosque as much as any of you, simply because I agree the motivations of the people who want to build it are evil. But the law provides equality, no matter how we dislike it. Find a legal reason to deny it? Sure. And if that happens I'll support it. But for now the law has said they can build it, and for now that's what we have to live with.