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Originally Posted by tomfon
I've just read that Erdogan wishes to visit Gaza. He also demands from the Turkish Navy to escort the next mission which is scheduled for August. The US seem told Erdogan to "hold back" for the time being and reconsider.
Turkey wants to become the representative nation of all Muslims in the area of Eastern Med - Black Sea - Middle East. This way Turkey will be established as THE power in the specific region. I don't think that Erdogan wants to cut relations with Israel. The game has changed. Turkey doesn't want enemies. The only thing they want is to control the nations of their region including the Balkans. This is a very clever tactic and personally i would expect nothing less from Erdogan and his minister of foreign affairs Mr. Davoutoglou. Actually, Davoutoglou has recently published a book explaining Turkey's strategy for the years to come. It is available and you can read all this in there.
If Europe fails to understand correctly the Turkish intentions then, in the future, Turkey will be able to influence the Europeans directly without actually being a member. Don't forget that there are a lot of Muslims in Germany, France and Great Britain. That is my estimation. 'Nuff said.
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Yes, the AKP wants to establish turkey as the master patron of Muslims in the region, and they want to bring Europe under their influence by demographic pressure being set up in foreign nations native populations (=strong Turkish sub-cultures that become powerful enough to influence national politics in favour of Turkish interests, and islam). I'm preaching this since years, but not many listen, because it is not what they want to hear. One can even refer to quotes and statements and explanations by responsible Muslim leaders and Turkish politicians themselves - clever know-it-alls in the West still insist they know it better than the Turks themselves and that they know for sure that the Turks do not mean things the way they tell them.
That way, the West constantly deformates Islam in general. Islam itselöf never is being put in question, it is always other factors giving Islam a bad name. It's the Imams, its the lacking integration, it is this, it is that. That imamas preach Islam, and that lacking integration comes from according demands of islam (or public de,mand by turkish leaders: I again remind of Erdoghans outragous speech during his visit in cologne), does not come to too many people's minds. It cannot be what should not be, and how could leftist tolerance and peace utopias come true if they would recognise an inherent intolerant, martial nature in Islamic ideology itself? Thus, Islam gets glossed over. That islam is world record holder in claiming eternal own victimhood (while indeed all cultures it comes into contact to have taken harm from it, if they did not get wiped out completely), gets completely ignored here in europe. It is a monster we have let in. Let in without being forced to do so. It has been our own damn idioticy and well-meaning stupidity and narcissistic impotence. We thought we would be able to tame islam due to the grandesse of our glorious western culture.
Ha - Pustekuchen is'!
In Germany, a criminalsitic study has been published these days, by an institute related to the German police. Amongst many others they had examined and asked 45,000 schoolboys and -girls from Muslim migration families. They found some highly significant statistic finding, that led the usually so cautious officials to make some very strong statements: that Muslim juveniles show a massively bigger trend to become violent and criminal, than puoils from christian or Jewish or other families, and that their methods (statistics) allowed them to link that directly to the typical macho-culture in Islam that forms Islamic male role models. They even went so far to say what I am preaching since years here: they said that the more christian teenagers beolieved in their relgion, the more peaceful and pacifistic they show to be, but that children from Muslim families show to be the more violent and prone to become criminal, the more devout believers of Muslim faith they are. I'm saying this since years.
So much for the study. The spokesman explaining it on the press conference, of course immedately relativised it again. He said that this misunderstanding of Islam is because the Imams in germany are teaching it the way they do - the problems is the imams, Islam itself has nothing to do with it. He also said that as a consequence from Islam rejecting integration, we (local residents calling this our country of Germany our legitimite home) must do more to integrate Islam. Have I got this right - we are getting called to tolerate and integrate what is not tolerating us and does not want to adapt to us and does not want to integrate? Those meeting us with signficantly raised level of physical violence and hate and macho-habitus - we should tolerate even more and welcome even more and distort outselves in order to let them have their primitive brutal ways?
In my closest social envrionement, there are three people wporking as teachers, since long. They all confirm that Muslim migrants, and here the boys, casue troubles over troubles and that whenever there is ohsycial violelnce and backyard crime taking place on the schoolyard, chances are that Muslim migrant are involved. I heared the same from the warehouse detectives in the warehouse where i worked until two years ago - all these deteives coming from an agency that employed migrants from ME coutries exlcusively (yes, exclusvely
) Crime statistiscs until some time ago gave clear evidence that in many categories of crime, offsporings fromMuslims migrtion familieswere masively overrepresented, by several factors when comparing to other groups.
Politiicans found a wonderful solution to this. They issued a prohibition of statistics so that Muslim migrant grouops and non-muslim groups are generalised any are no loner displayed separately. you cannot tell a difference between the grouos when looking into the yearly databook anymore. the new study I referred to above, so far has not been met with any attention by media, public, or politicians.
but we are being told that we have to adapt to these foreigner'S demands, and that we must integrate them when they do not integrate at all. It is my understanding that if you go to a foreign place to live there, you must ask whether or not they want you, and if so, that it is up to you to adapt to that place and to solve the integration problem. It is not up to the locals, it is up to you as the foreign newcomer.
Obviously, this kind of thinking is not wanted anymore.