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Originally Posted by Tribesman
Actually it proves your point false.
The "true american" version you claim is sadly in decline never really existed.
BTW you keep saying about equality and the wonderful freedom for women. My memory is a bit fuzzy about primogeny could you remind me again when exactly all this womens equality came about? maybe for example use a bastion against the islamic horde like switzerland, when did they get dragged kicking and screaming to actually dilute some of their institutionalised misogeny?
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The melting pot certainly existed, and frankly mostly exists. So-called multiculturalism has also existed with immigrant groups forming enclaves of "sameness," as well. None the less, for the most part, immigrants in this country do assimilate. Even Muslims, actually, which is why US Muslims are less extremist than European Muslims (at least according to polls conducted by outfits like PEW). None the less, they still hold views well outside norms for Americans at large (60% disapproval with al qaida is is 40% pro, or lukewarm towards AQ (having no opinion on such a poll is tantamount to support, IMO)).
That said, much of pluralistic, liberal western civilization is at odds with basic Muslim beliefs. Note that I'm just as vigorous in arguing against prayer in school, ID, or any other attempt by religion to invade public policy. Frequently those who would join such a fight in the US if the antagonist was a Baptist give a pass if he's a Muslim, however.
What do you mean by "primogeny?" I'm unfamiliar with the term (as is google).
Primatology?
Equality is something defined by law, except perhaps where those in the West might use the concept of "Natural Rights" as the US Founding Fathers did. In the West, women have no really had equality for very long.