[sergei]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

If you, the captain, are on the bridge, you, the captain, have to move your butt down the hatch before the boat will dive. Practice your crash dive drills.

Sorry I should have qualified that statement Neal.
Since I found out about that, I tend to have my character hang about down below.
That way, if I get an aircraft spotted I can crash dive straight away. And if I get get a ship spotted I run up the ladder to eyeball it.
Actually I quite like it like that.
Makes me feel like a real Captain.
'SHIP SPOTTED'. Runs up the ladder.
'"WO Where is the ship?"
"Dunno Captain, but my little Karrle is starting school next year"

I have on occasion been down below, had an aircraft spotted, hit crash dive, and had bugger all happen.

Only sometimes mind.

I'm not deliberately trying to find fault, just reporting stuff so we can make this better.
See this post.

Originally Posted by sergei

I cannot defend the game.

Let me give you a little background on why I bought it, and why I am putting my time into trying to fix it, despite despite the fact that it is, quite frankly, a pretty poor show at the moment.

I only got into PC gaming, oh jeez, I guess about 2 years ago.
Before that I was a console boy.
I didn't want to be, most console games are not really my thing. I just couldn't afford a PC.
Anyway, about 2 years ago I was finally in a position to finally afford a PC.
Bought it specifically to play SH4. (Silent Service 2 on the AMIGA had made a deep impression!)

By the time got here, the game was almost fully patched (1.4), and there was a lovely selection of great mods to chose from.
In fact, when I look at the games I have played since I got a PC, IL2, Rome and Med Total War, SH3, SH4, Oblivion, it's the same story every time. Someone else had done the hard work for me.
When I look at the forums on these games I see a lot of anger and frustration around about the release date. Eventually these games have been well patched up. Furthermore, there has followed a multitude of fantastic mods for all of these games.

I have been lucky enough to come to these games when they have been fully patched (NOT resolving all issues, I know that), and well modded up.

I never had to do my time in the trenches for any of these games.
I understand many people buying SH5 being pissed off. I agree, it does not seem to be a properly finished game.
Hopefully one day SH5 + Mods of choice will be a superb combination.
It may not happen, but I am hoping it will.

So I will take my turn in the vanguard, as part of the forlorn hope.

Maybe 2 years down the line someone a little bit like me, who has never played a Subsim before, will stumble across SH5 + whatever we have managed to make and enjoy it.