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Originally Posted by makman94
take it easy Martes....you are getting rude ! i am only expressing my opinion ,that has nothing to do with anyone PERSONALLY of the devs ! that is my thought ok ? and ,for me, i don't see that they worked hard for that tdc....
sorry , but this is what i see
ps: about the insults: i don't think that i insult anyone of the devs by saying that this job is 'fast' made but what is making sense to me is that you ,also, don't know me but this didn't 'block' you to insult me
bottom line is that i have to say my opinion only when i like something at sh series ?
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I've already replied your PM, but I want things to be clear, that I've never made any insults or threats, however agitated I might have looked. The posts below show quite clearly my concerns:
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Originally Posted by Jerik
I suspect Martes's concern is more that you're making broad assertions about their intent without understanding how the development process works. Software programming of any kind is not easy, and I speak from experience. Even very small tasks can take days or weeks to complete; features that seem simple or easy to build may actually have dozens of lines "under the hood", or be very complex in design.
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Originally Posted by John Channing
Fair point, however...
It may be a language or cultural thing but saying someone is "lazy" is an insult. It's not the way we talk here, even amongst 'ourselves'.
JCC
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And concidering a few of us have met the devs in person, saying the devs are lazy is like saying a friends of ours is lazy.
They have worked hard to make the best with what they had. I dont doubt that! |
On this last one, for me, a "lazy" person is someone who doesn't want to do something, that prefers to sleep or lay down on a confy couch and watch TV all day. That is both a flaw of character and an insult, when such is not true. And in someone who works on this field, it'd be a rather unprofessional behaviour. And since I am a developer myself, I took offense to that.
Anyways, I'll quote myself on this one:
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[...] I just stated that a moderator should take action against the kind statements like you just made.
Second, you don't know the devs either, and yet you say they're lazy!! Come on, you're just telling me why am I mad at you without knowing you, but you don't know the Devs and are bold enough to say they're lazy. I consider that an insult. By saying they're lazy, you're stating that they're crappy professionals, that don't want to do their job right. I'm a Developer too (not an SH5 developer though... [I wish I was  ]), so I can't avoid taking offense from people who, without knowing anything, say these professionals are lazy.
I'm not against constructive criticism, I actually support it... but I won't support people saying the Devs are lazy, and some other stuff that's also nonsense. That is just out of line, and it's insulting for any professional of the branch, not just the SH5 Devs.
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I think that says about everything. And I hope it clears this up.
