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Old 12-19-09, 02:55 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
An interesting viewpoint. So someone like Timo Junkkaala wouldn't be a real Finn then, neither would Tapani Makinen.
Though it does raise the question.
When you wrote ............
were you lying, telling lies, making up things or just writing things that were untrue?
Unless of course you consider the Pentecostals and Orthodox to be somehow Muslim, maybe the Lutherans in Turku and Tampere where the ads were being placed were really Muslims too, as were the Lutherans in Helsinki who joined the objections and of course the famously devout Muslim Finnish Bible Institute.
Good luck trying to explain why you felt the need to lie.

I suppose there is an important lesson there Happy Times.
If you have to make up bull**** to demonstrate your point then you don't have a valid point.
You really have become a sad character in my books.

Accusing me of lying is something i would expect from you.
When this forum has a lot of Finns it would be bordering crazy to post anything intentionally false information.

Neither of those names said nothing to me before i googled them..
Fact of the matter is that the protesting muslim bus drivers was the story on the media here.
And the Finnish media is by no means "Islamophopic" as you like to say, on the contrary in many cases.

Here is an interwiew of Jussi K. Niemelä, chairman of the freethinkers, concerning the campagn and the file, to the council of ethics in advertising, made against it.
http://www.mtv3.fi/uutiset/kotimaa.s...2009/06/907225

Excerpts.

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"Vapaa-ajattelijoiden ja Humanistiliiton mainoskampanjasta syntynyt kohu ei ole Niemelää yllättänyt. Sen sijaan muslimiyhteisön voimakas reagointi tuli yllätyksenä."

"The row about the campaign byt the freethinkers and humanis league didnt suprise Niemelä. But the strong responce from the muslim community came as an suprise"

"- Missään muussa maassa, missä kampanja on järjestetty, eivät muslimit ole reagoineet näin. Tämä on jotenkin ilmeisesti masinoitu tai sitten vain jostain syystä muslimit reagoivat voimakkaasti täällä Suomessa. Tiedän, että Englannissa yksi bussikuski kieltäytyi ajamasta sikäläisen kampanjan tarralla varustettua bussia. Siitä nousi tuolloin kohu. Tämä kyseinen kuski oli käsittääkseni kristitty, Niemelä sanoo."

"-In no other country where this campaign has been held have the muslims reacted this way. This has either been organized or for some other reason the muslims react this strong here in Finland.
I know that in England one busdriver refused to drive a bus that had the local campaigns sticker. It caused a row. I understant that the particular driver was an cristian, Niemelä says."

"Toinen yllätys kohumainoksen tiimoilta on Niemelälle ollut kirkon yllättävän positiivinen suhtautuminen kampanjaan.

- Tämä saattaa kertoa siitä, että kirkko osaa pelata mediapeliä. Sen sijaan muslimiyhteisöllä on siinä vielä opeteltavaa, puheenjohtaja aprikoi"

"Another suprise concerning the campaing to Nimelä has been the suprisingly positive reaction from the church.

-This might indicate that the church handles the media game. Instead the muslim community has learning to do concerning that, the chairman thinks."
So Tribesman,here is a lesson for you, but as allways, you probably wont take it.
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