[NeonSamurai]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Neon, do you carry a sign that shows, "The End Is Near" painted on it?

Only on weekends and usualy in a sad clown suit

You're not wanting kids for the fear of something happening surpasses the borderline lunatic as I was portrayed by not only Skybird but serval others in the thread.

Hmm yes I must be crazy, I don't want to bring more children into an already overpopulated world. I am quite convinced that we are heading towards a period of major conflict, strife, and trouble for many different reasons. I do not want to bring children into that world as I would not want my children to suffer for it. It is also not something I take lightly at all.

Perhaps you should stop and think that it might be one of your children that becomes the person who develops the answers to all the questions concerning global warming!

Global warming is only a part of the greater whole that greatly worries me. Also there is no miracle cure to the situation.

Think about past history and what if prominent figures of our time had parents that did not want a child because of what MIGHT happen. Sure, perhaps only one in a billion really make a difference. Could be your child as the one! You never know.

I doubt it works like that, also I suspect knowing human nature, that we have already passed the tipping point overall. That by the time most of the population sees the problems, that it will be far too late to recover.

I do not think I would deprive myself of child and all the wonderful things that child rearing entails over a possibility that something might happen.

Like I said its not a decision I make lightly. I would love children, and may even adopt some at some point if I do not have any. But my predictions as to what is coming are very grim. Bluntly I believe we are heading towards a period of mass extinction which will most likely take our species out with it. I wish it was not the case, but that is the picture I formed rationaly from all I have taken in.


Anyhow back on topic, people like to talk about all the money invested into the green movement. That these people have a stake in global warming and thus have reason to fake the data. Well what about the other side of the coin? If global warming is real and we are the ones resposible then its going to cost most corporations in the world massive sums of money to try to fix it. These money men have plenty of reason to try to suppress, distort, deny, and fabricate evidence for or against it. They also have far more resources available to counter it then the green movement, and will have plenty of scientists of their own to flood the scientific community with junk research.

I've read a lot of the stuff from both sides of the debate. The problem I have with a lot of the contrary material is much of it is pseudo scientific. Like as in the creation vs evolution thread here they are selectivly picking a few things which supports their argument and ignoring everything that disproves it. Good science takes everything into account, proof and disproof and weighs them together. There is also a ton of bad science floating around right now clouding and poluting the issue. Not because it disagrees with the widly held view in the scientific community, but because a lot of it is fraudulent, or pseudo/un scientific.


As for that article you posted AVG, I haven't read it in full yet, but from the quick skimming of it I wasn't too impressed so far. But I'll leave real comment on it until I have read it in full and checked the supporting documentation. I will say though that I do not trust that site one bit as they have a very obvious and strong bias and agenda of their own. I do wonder though what organization is behind that site, as it raised a lot of red flags automaticly for me.