03-10-09, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Aramike
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Originally Posted by Enigma
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I agree that the Birth Certificate issue was a non-starter for some extremists. The part I disagree with is that Obama's relationship with William Ayers and "Reverend" Wright has not been debunked. What those relationships mean is up for the reader to conclude. But to not allow the inclusion of the FACTS surrounding his relationship with those high-profile, controversial individuals is evidence of bias, I believe.
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There's certainly an argument to be made there. However, I'd suggest that listing every person that is linked in any simple way to another that is deemed unsavory would have the Wiki page of every politician be a list of of unchecked facts and meaningless, irrelevant information. For example, without reading the entire thing, I wouldn't imagine George W. Bush's wiki page mentions anything about his families business connection with the Bin Laden family, although this was alleged and reported on, as well. |
True enough. However, the difference is that Obama himself had connections with these figures, and these connections aren't merely alleged.
Like I said, I agree with the Birth Certificate issue not being mentioned on a biographical page of Obama. But his admitted connections to such players as Ayers and Wright do seem relevant. |
Wright is on obama's Wiki, and you find Obama on Professor Ayers Wiki.
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Obama-Ayers Controversy
Main article: Bill Ayers presidential election controversy
During the 2008 U.S. presidential campaign, a controversy arose regarding Ayers' contacts with then-candidate Barack Obama, a matter that had been public knowledge in Chicago for years.[51] After being raised by the British press[52][51][53] the connection was picked up by blogs and newspapers in the United States. The matter was raised in a campaign debate by moderator George Stephanopoulos, and later became an issue for the John McCain presidential campaign. Investigations by The New York Times, CNN, and other news organizations concluded that Obama does not have a close relationship with Ayers.[54][55][56] In an op-ed piece after the election, Ayers denied any close association with Obama, and castigated the Republican campaign for its use of guilt by association tactics.[35] In a new edition of his memoirs, Fugitive Days: Memoirs of an Anti-War-Activist, he added a new afterword describing their relationship as "neighbors and family friends".[57] But in an interview with Good Morning America, Ayers said the afterword was "describing there how the blogosphere characterized the relationship."[58]
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