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kiwi_2005 12-08-05 08:51 PM

Kilo Improved SS. [Rookie Captain question]
 
Im running a mission made from the editor in DW. Real simple. My Kilo Improved SS up aganist a SSBN US Sub placed about 50miles away from me. All autocrew off. Im in shadow waters and ive got the SSBN running inside a box.

With the autocrew off do i still have to search for targets - watch the radar, or will the computer tell me about a sonar contact then leave it up to me to do everything else. Its taking along time to find that SSBN sub! lol.

Ive been playing to much SH3 i think cause im sitting in front of the sonar listening for contacts. :arrgh!:

kiwi_2005 12-08-05 08:53 PM

I installed the 1.03 beta 1 patch, does this make detection harder?

Deathblow 12-08-05 09:03 PM

Hi kiwi,

If you have autocrew off then yes, all your detections will be made by you, and the computer will not inform you of any contacts that are on the sensors.... you'll have to be deligent and watch the sonar itself.

I don't think the 1.03 patch made it "harder" for detection, but it does make thermal layers more of a sound barrier...

The Kilo's sonar has limited range and sensitivity and will probably only detect the SSBN at around 10 nm at best, less if the sub is trying to be quiet.

Hope that helps

EDIT: 10nm I mean, not 10km

kiwi_2005 12-08-05 09:06 PM

Thanks Deathblow!

Yes that helped alot. I might have to re-edit the mission and make the SSBN closer, its just for my training.

:up:

LuftWolf 12-08-05 09:19 PM

The patch greatly lengthens detections is some cases and greatly reduces them in others.

This is because the 1.03 patch is a complete overhaul of the sound propagation model. It now functions very realistically and has wide set of environmental parameters that influence detection ranges.

Molon Labe 12-08-05 09:28 PM

If you consider detections of an Akula crawling around slowly at a range of over 30nm realistic, then sure. :-?

sonar732 12-08-05 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molon Labe
If you consider detections of an Akula crawling around slowly at a range of over 30nm realistic, then sure. :-?

Two questions need to be answered for this one obviously...;)
  • 1. Your platform
    2. SSP

Molon Labe 12-08-05 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonar732
Quote:

Originally Posted by Molon Labe
If you consider detections of an Akula crawling around slowly at a range of over 30nm realistic, then sure. :-?

Two questions need to be answered for this one obviously...;)
  • 1. Your platform
    2. SSP

At very low speeds, will those two actually affect this answer? And if yes, why don't US subs carry ASROCs anymore?

TLAM Strike 12-08-05 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molon Labe
And if yes, why don't US subs carry ASROCs anymore?

Politics. After the Cold War Congress didn't think a deep water weapon like the SUBROC and Sea Lance was cost effective.

Deathblow 12-09-05 07:57 AM

:arrgh!: Yarr!!! This thread dun be hijacked! Yarr!!! :arrgh!:

:arrgh!: Hand over your booty and none of ya's get hert!! :arrgh!:

Molon Labe 12-09-05 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathblow
:arrgh!: Yarr!!! This thread dun be hijacked! Yarr!!! :arrgh!:

:arrgh!: Hand over your booty and none of ya's get hert!! :arrgh!:

Sorry. :oops: Here's my booty, go ahead and grab it, but be gentle.

Bellman 12-09-05 09:30 AM

:lol: ML:
Quote:

Sorry. Here's my booty, go ahead and grab it, but be gentle.
But your advice on dealing with C in C House, which of course,Bill and I took to heart was:
Quote:

Don't resign yourself to submission! (unless that's your thing of course)
:ping: :rotfl: :-j

Oberon 12-09-05 10:26 AM

Did I hear booty?
http://www.worth1000.com/entries/15500/15739_w.JPG

:huh:

SKeeM 12-09-05 10:30 AM

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y258/chazws/10sdf.jpg

Molon Labe 12-09-05 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bellman
:lol: ML:
Quote:

Sorry. Here's my booty, go ahead and grab it, but be gentle.
But your advice on dealing with C in C House, which of course,Bill and I took to heart was:
Quote:

Don't resign yourself to submission! (unless that's your thing of course)
:ping: :rotfl: :-j

I guess fault changes the calculus a bit. This case is easily distinguishable from Bill's, since he had no culpable conduct.


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