RMS Titanic Hit Points
 

Hi all, my query is that I loaded a few extra ships into SH3 using GWX. I actually encounted the Titanic in a convoi. Great I thought, tons and tons of ship to sink. I fired three torpedos at it. Of course two missed. One torpedo hit it, and it sank in a flash. Now for a ship which is unsinkable I found this a bit annoying. Can I, may I change the ships hit points? How do I do it?
I have no knowledge of modding and do not want to stuff up the game.
Thanks in advance.
Andreas

Hi mate,

I can't answer your question about hit points I'm afraid but the best and safest way to go about modding so as to avoid "stuffing up your game" is to do a second "modding" install of the game and any "core" mods such as GWX etc. and use JSGME to install any trial mods. You can use Multi-SH3 so that you can have two (or more) installs of the game each with their own save game folders.

Edit: I think that you should be looking at zones.cfg and find your ship entry in that file.

Cheers

Aces

Grab S3D and open the zon file.
(I use a Hex editor myself)
Look for the ColisionableObject controller.
HitPoints are listed there.
Just up the setting to your taste.

There you go!, thought an expert would appear soon enough to answer your query :), Hi Jeff, hope you are well mate.

cheers

Leigh

Doing fine Leigh.
:yep:

As to the zone.cfg,
Messing with the HitPoints there causes a universal change to all Units useing the zone you change.

Working the Unit .zon file only applies to that Unit.
For example:
the Junk has a value of 175
while the Bismark has a value of 800

Not sure what the Titanic has as I don't have that installed.
Don't even know how well the zon for it is setup.
That's a whole different ball game!
:haha:

Thanks for the info Jeff, always nice to learn new tricks :)

Glad to hear that you are doing well mate.

Why not stop by Modders United for a gander when and if you have a bit of time.

Take care mate

Cheers

Leigh

Well now I feel stupid!!

Just read the credits from VonDos and seems I worked the zon file!!
:oops:

I think I'll go through it again.
But remember this!
For an unsinkable Ship?
It went down pretty fast in real life!
:haha:

don't worry mate, I have those "Senior" moments quite often nowdays :D

:har:

I don't know why I'm laughing, I know squat about modding. And to be fair, you've done quite a lot so I doubt you'd remember it all. :doh:

I looked at the zon setup and remember doing it now.
:haha:

It was a side project to help VonDos while We were finishing up GWX 3.

I also recall it was not as good as it could be given the proper attention.
Now that means there are some areas that a torpedo could possibly hit that would cause no damages at all.

I'll have to install it and do a few test shots on the areas I saw today to be sure.

I don't use S3D for zone work by the way.
:03:

Thanks for the tips. As far as know six of the sixteen watertight compartments were ripped open on the collision. A singel torpedo would open maximum two if it hit the middle of two.
The ship is massive and the reward is a bit stale when it goes under with one hit.

Well, there's been ALOT of research into the actual cause of the sinking.
Substandard metal used and bad design, etc.

The Brittannic went down in 55 minutes from a single hit.
(Mine or torpedo. It's not clear which)
And the Britannic was completed AFTER the Titanic disaster and included upgrades to avoid such a sinking.

That's one factor used when the zon file was originally built for VonDos's Titanic.

Mmm now that is a dilemma, but my feelings tell me one torpedo for such a large ship is not right. If I would like to change the ZON file is it under "ColisionableObject"? Am I right there?

Yep. It's set to 700 hit points now.
You can up that as you wish.
:D

I think I will have to learn this all, no don't let me become a modder.
The titanic has 700 and the Bismarck has 800, not really much difference.
What value does 100 have. I need to do some studing here I realise.
Thank you very much.
This all remind me of my youth when I used to play war games. I played this naval war game with ship models and we had a formula to calculate ship strengths using the armour strength of turrets, belts, decks etc.