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von Kinderei 12-13-11 06:22 PM

Question about Neutral Contacts
 
When you see or pass a Neutral Contact and you're on the surface ... in game is it programed that they might report your position :06:

Gargamel 12-13-11 10:46 PM

No.


The period was just because I couldn't post less than 2 characters

1480 12-13-11 11:06 PM

You could fake it, dive, use it as practice for a torpedo run, thats what I like to do.

Raptor 12-14-11 12:21 AM

Or just sink the bloody ship(s). After all, if they're sailing in an allied convoy, they're torpedo bait. Aha! But first, you have to edit SilentHunterIII/Data/Cfg/basic.cfg so you aren't penalized by BdU.

Scroll down to the 3rd [ ] section:

[RENOWN]
RenownReachGridObjCompleted=500
RenownPatrolGridObjCompleted=200
CompletedPatrol=200
NEUTRAL=1 <= remove the minus sign
ALLIED=1
AXIS=-10
WrongShipSunk=0 <= change to zero
FirstRankRenown=10
SecondRankRenown=25
EndCampaign=-5


For that matter, anything that comes across my bow that isn't on our side is torpedo bait. Sink 'em all; let the Gods sort 'em out later. Ot to put it another way....

"'Once the rocket goes up, who cares where it comes down? That's not my department!' said Werner von Braun."
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von Kinderei 12-14-11 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1480 (Post 1804951)
You could fake it, dive, use it as practice for a torpedo run, thats what I like to do.

Thats what I've been doin' as I wasn't sure if they reported my presence
:D

PapaKilo 12-14-11 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by von Kinderei (Post 1805069)
Thats what I've been doin' as I wasn't sure if they reported my presence
:D

They don't, I can assure you!

von Kinderei 12-14-11 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapaKilo (Post 1805094)
They don't, I can assure you!


Yeah ...

To bad huh :nope:

von Kinderei 12-14-11 10:01 AM

I wish it were able to do for reality purposes ... :hmmm:

PapaKilo 12-14-11 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by von Kinderei (Post 1805099)
I wish it were able to do for reality purposes ... :hmmm:

They would risk their arses in doing so.

frau kaleun 12-14-11 01:18 PM

I would think that in real life it might be possible for the u-boat to monitor the radio traffic and know the neutral was broadcasting their position. But I don't know if that would've been an "official" breach of neutrality and therefore justifiable grounds for considering the neutral a legitimate target. :hmmm:

That would be for lone ships, or ships sailing without (armed) enemy escorts. If they're already part of an enemy convoy, I'm not gonna feel bad about sinking one, heck it could happen by accident even if I wasn't aiming for them. (However for "scoring" purposes" the game would still consider them neutral and penalize you, even in those circumstances, unless you've done some modding of the basic.cfg as noted above.)

TorpX 12-14-11 09:28 PM

Why would a neutral vessel be in a combatant convoy? This makes no sense to me. If I were a captain of a nuetral ship, I would want to stay as far away from belligerent convoys as possible. I would be running with lights on and a great big flag painted on the hull, so everyone would KNOW I am really neutral. :timeout:

Did nuetrals and combatant ship really mingle in the same convoys?

frau kaleun 12-14-11 09:43 PM

I suspect the answer is yes, because in many cases it seemed safer to travel in a convoy protected by armed escorts (even if that made one a potential target, even by accident) than to travel alone and unescorted through what was essentially a huge war zone, and then into (or out of) Allied home waters and Allied ports that the Germans were trying their best to blockade (however ineffectively).

Gargamel 12-14-11 09:49 PM

In the months prior to joining the allies, the Greeks often had ships in convoys. Also, the us also had merchies in convoys prior to their official joining of the war.

Sailor Steve 12-14-11 11:13 PM

The ship is not owned by the country, but by the shipping company. If a neutral ship was caught trying to make money smuggling goods into a blockaded country they would be subject to prize regulations anyway. A u-boat catching a neutral ship in enemy waters might stop it and check papers, then turn it back, but once stopping ships became impossible they might just sink them anyway. At that point a ship from a neutral country would be safer in the convoy.

Jimbuna 12-15-11 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frau kaleun (Post 1805183)
I would think that in real life it might be possible for the u-boat to monitor the radio traffic and know the neutral was broadcasting their position.

That is exactly what happened in RL :yep:


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