Hu Jintao tells China navy: Prepare for warfare
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-16063607

Note: 7 December 2011 Last updated at 05:31 GMT

It may be a reply to Obama's announcement to send 2500 special forces and instructors to Australia.

Anyhow, the job of any armed forces is to fight war. And in peacetimes to prepare for war by training how to fight it. It's job is not to drill waterholes and build hospitals in other nations, it'S job is not to create new forms of social life in foreign cultures, or to build schools. The decision over war and peace is made by politicians. But the decision on what the role of the armed forces should be, must n ot be made anymore, since that is already being answered by calling an army an army, and not the boyscouts, the Technisches Hilfswerk, the social engineering brigade or the human developement chorps.

Especially Germans have too many bees in their bonnets over what role the armed forces should (=could) play. Aid work and developement organisations build. Armies destroy (what is or belongs to the enemy).

Good thinking,:yep:

Conveniently coinciding with the anniversary of Pearl Harbor? :06:

Doubtful...

I always find this map disturbing.
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...ea_1_466-1.jpg

I am sure he has seen this. if he is referring to the United States.
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/7204/fleetmap1.gif

China may be wealthy, but they are still second rate in comparison.

I always wondered what happened to the 1st and 2nd fleet. Dissappeared in the Bermuda Triangle?

Anyhow, China, in case of war, would not need to scatter its forces around the whole globe. How much and what kind of combat force each side can project - and maintain! - into the theatre of operation - that is the interesting thing, plus reaction and support (or lack of) of own home public.

Floater fleets? Super secret?
Or retired in shame? Similar to the Legion numbers of Varus' destroyed legions in Teutoberg forest?

Any USN folks know?:salute:

According to Wikipedia:

As for the rest:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...US_Navy_fleets

:DL

Ah. :up:

Of course I meant 4th Fleet when asking about (still existing) 2nd fleet. It seesm the 4th is a paper fleet without own ressources, but being called back to duty some years ago. Theatre of responsibility: Caribean, and Southern America. Ressources will be taken from 2nd fleet, when needed.

Ghost fleets. Great idea. Reminds me of the final battle in LOTR.

Edit. What, 2nd fleet just disestablished a month ago? But the other fleets are still there, eh? I must ask this: are there any American warships sailing the sea at all, or is it just a media stunt? :D

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Now lets play a game of risk with said fleet map. Move the Med fleet to east coast USA (defense) (Brits and France cover us in Med). Indian ocean fleet sails offshore China.
East coast fleet moves to the West coast in defense, And pacific fleets sail to china.

That is 3 Armadas we can bring to bear without sacrificing our own homeland. (I am not worried about your countries, nor should we be)

I speak the high praise of our high-tech missile cruisers, and the fact our Navy Aviators (face it, we have more practice in actual warfare) are the best in the world.

I'd put money on this.

Um yeah... can we just skip the whole dropping nukes on people business? Most people only consider that kind of wanton destruction when they're trying to get rid of me. ;)






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