Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1713449)

This bill was passed in Maryland as well. However, strong opposition and petitioning with signature to get it on the ballot for citizen voting was accomplished. The next round of voting coming up this will be decided by the citizenship of Maryland. Looks like it will go down in a ball of flames on that day.

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ. (Post 1713453)

unfortunately for us, the illegals make up a fairly substantial population (or should i say poblacion), and LA is now little mexico.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1713462)

The illegals can not vote. They are illegal. The decision should be left to the voting legal public. It is unfortunate that some believe all should get everything for nothing. Last time I checked, those that came through Ellis Island over 100 years ago did not get anything for nothing. These folks learned the language and became US citizens the proper way. Contact any congressman that is opposed to the legislation. Start a petition.

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ. (Post 1713469)

illegalls CAN vote, with fake documents. ive seen it before. its quite easy to fake your identity these days.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1713471)

This is brilliance that runs local government and also the federal government. It makes you want to cry.

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ. (Post 1713453)

unfortunately for us, the illegals make up a fairly substantial population (or should i say poblacion), and LA is now little mexico.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1713462)

The illegals can not vote. They are illegal. The decision should be left to the voting legal public. .

Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1713620)

I've been saying for years that California is no longer part of the United States. Illegal immigration has gone unchecked and without reprocussions for those that hire them, for YEARS. Decades even. The result is, today, for all intents and purposes, it is a province of Mexico.



Actually AVG, they can vote, just not in the way you think. Let me explain how this works.


In the beginning you have the initial illegals. They come here, and have their a kid. And then, another, and another and another. Hispanic families are alot like Mormon familiies - HUGE. They retain their cultural and national identity, teaching their kids how to speak Spanish. The kids learn English either by proxy, or they go to ESL. Every school in california has an ESL program. What is ESL? English as a Second Language.

These kids grow up, without much interrgration with America, because of their parents who are Mexican nationals, keep strong ties to Mexico, and instill those values in their kids.

The result is this:

http://www.foxnews.com/images/197673...migration1.jpghttp://www.staggeron.org/images/Mexifornia_cheers.jpg
These are student's mind you! Tommorrows voters in California
( http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/mexicoflag.asp )

Lastly, this scene, is not uncommon in California:
http://www.campominutemen.com/report...air-710998.jpg


California is a case study, an example of what to avoid, of what will eventually happen to other states if they don't clamp down on illegal immigration. They' breed, mulitply, and acquire a voting contingent of anchor babies that has enough political clout that politicians can't ignore if they want to keep office. This is how this works, and how Pro illegal laws come to pass. We really, Really, REALLY, need to change the laws that allow this to happen. But that'll never happen. Nevada and Texas are probably next on the "reconquista" list. Utah, won't be far behind them in the next decade or two I imagine.