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Skybird 09-30-08 01:50 PM

The long slow end of the American era
 
Quite long, but very realistically summerizing the mood as I believe I perceive it from media all around:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...581502,00.html

But with the sun of the American era setting, there comes the need for the Europeans to show that they can be masters of their own fate without comfortably leaving leadership and responsibility coming along with it to Washington. That is both a chance and a risk for Europe - and unfortuantely, considering the way the EU formed itself over the past 14 or 15 years, there is good reason to have some doubts that it can make it. Time will tell, and we cannot avoid to see it: for a return to the old order of american dominance is out of question, I think.

Tchocky 09-30-08 01:54 PM

Nice to see our German friend once more forecasting the end of America.

Anything Der Spiegel says, eh Skybird?


:arrgh!:

Skybird 09-30-08 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
Nice to see our German friend once more forecasting the end of America.

Anything Der Spiegel says, eh Skybird?


:arrgh!:

If it matches what I think, yes. So not "anything", but "some things".

and why the black-white paitning? The end of America and end of the American world order are two different things. The british empire is no more, too, but Britain until today survived that.

Leave my person out of it, Tchocky. Argue with the essay, or don't.

Tchocky 09-30-08 02:01 PM

Cool your jets, I'm only taking the piss. :p

Sea Demon 09-30-08 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird
Leave my person out of it, Tchocky. Argue with the essay, or don't.

Or holy hell, I'll put you on ignore too. That'll show ya'. :lol: :arrgh!:

August 09-30-08 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird
Leave my person out of it, Tchocky. Argue with the essay, or don't.

Or holy hell, I'll put you on ignore too. That'll show ya'. :lol: :arrgh!:

I'm quite happy to be on Skybirds ignore list. I get to talk about him and he doesn't even know it unless one of you guys quote me... :lol:

nikimcbee 09-30-08 02:45 PM

Anything else?:roll:
http://eatourbrains.com/EoB/wp-conte...7/05/troll.jpg

Konovalov 09-30-08 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird
Leave my person out of it, Tchocky. Argue with the essay, or don't.

He was joking. Taking the mickey. That kind of thing. Nothing more, nothing less. :yep:

Digital_Trucker 09-30-08 03:38 PM

That "essay" is almost as long as some peoples posts around here.:hmm:

Lots of opinion in it, though. :yep:

August 09-30-08 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker
Lots of opinion in it, though. :yep:

Yeah and barely concealed glee by those who subscribe to it.

UN out of the US, US out of the UN!

baggygreen 09-30-08 05:36 PM

Well heres my question.

*IF* the article is right and the US's era as chief superpower is coming to an end, who is going to step into its role? And will we in the west like the way they do things?:hmm:

UnderseaLcpl 09-30-08 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by baggygreen
Well heres my question.

*IF* the article is right and the US's era as chief superpower is coming to an end, who is going to step into its role? And will we in the west like the way they do things?:hmm:

China. Probably not.

nikimcbee 09-30-08 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl
Quote:

Originally Posted by baggygreen
Well heres my question.

*IF* the article is right and the US's era as chief superpower is coming to an end, who is going to step into its role? And will we in the west like the way they do things?:hmm:

China. Probably not.

I say China too. Russia is too backwards. Russia has the resources to lead, but they have been crippled by the communism cancer. Europe is too divided.

China has the will power and the business savy.

CCIP 09-30-08 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee
I say China too. Russia is too backwards. Russia has the resources to lead, but they have been crippled by the communism cancer. Europe is too divided.

China has the will power and the business savy.

Last I checked, it was China and not Russia still ruled by a communist party :hmm:

nikimcbee 09-30-08 06:08 PM

Now if all of Asia were to somehow unite:hmm: . The Asian work ethic? Now that would be unstoppable.


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