Where are you all?
 

I was suprised as i saw how many guys be arround this forum and also other v Navies ive never seen before.

I always hang arround in gamespy and i always see the same persons there but never you forum people or just a few or silent sharks navy people.

I thought gamespy was the common tool for matchups?!

It is and im a silent shark member and mostly the V navies do direct IP games it saves the hassel of gamespy.

well it *is* called SubSim.......
That may have something to do with it.

A lot of people here don't show up for the "deathmatch dw" type of game you encounter at gamespy. In fact, some people there have a tendency to shoot at nearly everything that moves. Reading the briefing for instructions, for actual missions, is foreign to them.

Because of those people, the rest of us stayed away.

So? i didn't know that.

But i've already seen SSNers killing Shrimps lol.

Also I think there were accusations of a couple of guys on GS cheating by creating missions with specific scripts to manipulate opposition players.

I mention no names but i know at least one of these people.

I tried gamespy for a while. I got annoyed with it because the typical gamespy mission had the distance scales picked all wrong.

There was no real searching and the only tactic was to shoot first. In fact, the areas were picked such that arguably, the best tactic was to just shoot a torpedo at spawn and then let it do all the searching for you. They didn't know what USW/ASW was about there.

I like SIMULATIONS not sub doom.

Well said SQ!:up:

If you want a serious online game with serious people join a virtual navy, not gamespy. alredy then name of it looks cheating.

Also, on gamespy you hardly make friends as they come and go, in a virtual navy you get to know REAL SUBMARINERS (if you're lucky).

I think the most realistic simming is actually to play solo. I work with former submariners all day. I can take or leave them. I keep trying to get a networked game going, though.

There is no fun at all in playing solo.
Mind you, I'm not saying it is not challenging or whatever, just that nothing beats a well trained multistation crew in a multiplayer game.
You have to experience multistation the right way SQ, once you do there is no turning back on playing solo.

Depending on who creates the mission...there is plenty of fun playing solo! I love playing Bill's Campaign and his other missions.

I'm sorry you feel that way. To me, so much of wargaming is asking questions about how stuff works, or why people make the decisions they do. In my experience, unless the other people are equally knowledgeable and interested in the same questions, playing wargames with anything more than one or two other people is often like herding cats, and I don't see anything fun about that necessarily. My gripes are often the same as what happens in gamespy, where the scenario drives the outcome more than anything else.

Actually, that's the thing that bothers me more than anything else. I think the whole MP v. SP or whatever debate is ultimately irrelevent. I can have a good time either way, if the scenario is carefully designed. Unfortunately, I don't see many good scenarios that make me say, "huuum... how would one do that?"

One of these days I've got to play that... time time time... grrrrr.... :damn: