Best submarine in the fleet
 

whats the best submarine in the dangerous waters fleet any takers?

Kilo Imp. :yep:
Cheap, Quiet, and Deadly a dangerous combination. :up:

Amen

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NIKKO CLASS

Main features:
1. Quiet and silent
2. Economical
3. Reliable
4. Cheap

And the most important, portable. You can even ride on it in your bathtub during the shower time. :yep: :up:

Nice one :) But what about her detection abilities and weaponry? :lol:

Don't you see that ferocious looking mouth? It chomps its victims to pieces.

Stealth of the KILO is just ruined by the SW active capability.
If the mission of the Seawolf is to hunt subs, then he will use his fantastic active sonar, and then the KILO is just relegated : you can find him and engage him at 20 miles ...
Of course, KILO is a very nice platform, at very low cost compared to a SW. A very nice ratio cost/efficiency
But on what we could see on DW ... no sub can challenge a SW.
Even if 688i and Akula are not so far from him.

But best stealth, best sensors, best CM capabilities, and especially WAA give SW best overall capabilities.
WAA make things really easiest, not to hunt subs, but for situationnal awareness => just have to clic on RAPLOC on 3 LOBS for any contact to have a fast and very accurate solution on every contact arounds ... in 5 minutes
where you need 8 LOBs for less accurate solutions (you ned to find yourself the target range) with 688i and Akulas.

SW allow you to refine and update much more quickly your situationnal awarness just because of the WAA.

So here I was voting thinking we were talking real world (silly me). Guess I should read the posts prior to responding. If we're talking real world then currently the 688i class far exceeds Seawolf; my reasons being that on paper and in theory the Seawolf far surpasses any class in speed, stealth and capabilities however, in reality they only built 3 (2 normal and one special) of the class and most major vendors went out of buisness so repair parts are hard to come by and when (and I stress when) they do go to sea they run at reduced capability. Though they are a good boat overall I prefer my 688i anyday. Tough, reliable, quiet and lots of weapons :rock:

Yea, so. SW's the best in DW! Though, Sub itself is a tin can without a clever and resolute skipper :up:
For myself, I like 688i. Something charming for me in those VLs :D
But most of all subs, I like Alpha! She's beauty, isn't she? :sunny:
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Ummm the Kilo can just turn tail and run when you attack from 20 miles away and be out of your weapons range. Or can rush in one mile and attack with SUBROCs. If the SW decides to rush in and attack it runs the risk of getting SUBROCed by another hostile platform.

Yea its just sick that a 1.5 billion dollar platform is needed to kill a 300 million dollar one. ;)

Yes she's just glowing! :P

nothing can challenge a SW

WTF are you on :o an akula 2 in a kife fight is capible of destroying a seawolf, i myself last night infact came very close to killing a seawolf then i lost connection.

a kilo is capible of killing a SW an alfa a mike is capible of killing SW a german 212/214 a lada amur class british astute and trafalgar

all these could kill a SW the seawolf could ahve a bad day and bang its gone

the alfa is a very very sexy boat shame there being cut up :(

Yeah, sexy to look at but that's about it.

there speed was superiour and still is 45 knots doubt the seawolf could reach that probly around 37 knots tops for SSN 21

Yeah, that's based on personal bias. The USN is saying positively squat about the 21's, so for all we know, they could do 50 knots. Not likely that any offical source is going to say a word about it.

not personal bias but look at the two

the alfa is more hydrodynamicaly efficent than the seawolf

the alfa is smaller lighter and more blended than the seawolf the squat sail is hydrodynamic unlike the seawolf sail that cuts rather than displaces water.

if the alfa has a reactor that was more efficent ie more powerful then she could handle faster speeds.

the seawolfs sail is big bulky and not realy efficent in the way it cuts through and displaces the waves, its like a toilette roll tube with a brick on top not incredibly hydrodynamic is it.

the seawolf cuts the water rather than splay it over a vast area and will then slow it down.

the alfa wieghs a mere 3000 tonnes tops the seawolf is what 10,000 tonnes the seawolf is also bigger wider longer and this will also slow it down.

its like a WW1 biplane with jet engines is the seawolf may be great to look at but in reality although it works its not very efficent

the alfa when tested ina wind tunnel could effectivly reach speeds in excess of 45 knots if it had a bigger more powerful reactor the seawolf creates eddies of water on top and near the sail which creates noise and slows the sub down

the seawolf is a good design married to a belief of what i call hydrosimplicity the alfa is technosimplicity and hydrocomplexity go figure :up:

None of us really know what's under the hood, so to speak, of a 21. None of us have access to the hydrodynamic test results of the 21. No comparison can be made.

an educated guess that the reactor produces around 20,000shp standard from brit french and older american boats

and you can replicate the hydrodynamic tests with a 144 revel plastic model

I bet if we built the 'Skipjack' class with today's gear it would beat the Alfa's speed records. :yep: A former Skipjack sailor best discribed the class when he said this:

Kaptain, I don't think you're a bad guy, but your wild speculation drives me crazy. As a professional researcher, I can tell you that one cannot make comparisons without having access to the appropriate data. Yes, I know that this is what the boards here are about, but it still makes me nutty. Still, speculate away. Everyone else seems to enjoy it.