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Skybird 10-01-19 03:49 AM

Eat meat. Or not. Do like you want. That simple.
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-49877237

This new study takes a vigorous look at the statistics behind claims that "red meat signficiantly increases cancer". It illustrates what I beleive sinc elong, that nutrition studies are very difficult to run and that the vast, the very vast majority of health claims concluded form "new studies" is due to improper, poor and sometimes even statistcially invalid methodology. In the end, you almost never have a nutrition study proving any causal link between cause and effect, you only have reports that explain an observation of things that were observaed simultaneously - not knowing whether they are causally linked or not.And control of interfering variables? Almost never present. Often even impossible to do even if there would be a desire for it.

Few things however are not in doubt. Refined sugar and corn syrup for example are beyond doubt regarding their health hazard level. With salt, fat, oil, carbonhydrates, of various kind, protein, it already gets problematic again. I do not listen to any "new study" on it anymore.

That politcs and ideology, world views and the demand to eat so to do somethign good for ecology/other countries/Gaia, drive strong own interests and dress them as health claims and better food claims, doe snot help, of course. Like with climate, the UN gremia seem to be heavily guilty of this abuse again.


I know an ecotrophologist from university times. she is good in business, but totally pissed, and since two years or longer talked of abandining the job. She is 52 like I am, and now has done so. She said she was sick and tired of the crappy study situation in her branch. Granted, her material situation is such that she can afford to stop her former profession, still she makes me wondering: how many are out there continuing to sell crappy theory and advise just because they need to do so to have an income for themselves?

Reece 10-01-19 05:43 AM

Always ate red meat, especially lamb, and at 67 I'm not gonna stop!! :yep:

Skybird 10-01-19 05:46 AM

"You planet killer...!" :arrgh!:

JU_88 10-01-19 05:51 AM

You dont need bacon, just rub some avacado paste on your knees!

STEED 10-01-19 05:55 AM

FACT WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE.....So just enjoy life. :)

I eat very little meat as I am more of a fish eater but the price of fresh fish is now out my price range, tin tuna is no real substitute for fresh fish.

captainadccdacaptain 10-01-19 06:17 AM

I find EVERY excuse to grill meat, in every season. STEED makes a great point: Why spend your life trying to prolong it when you can simply ENJOY it?

Reece 10-01-19 06:20 AM

STEED, don't eat too much tuna, I believe it contains mercury!! :hmmm:

STEED 10-01-19 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece (Post 2630108)
STEED, don't eat too much tuna, I believe it contains mercury!! :hmmm:

I am still going to have tuna and bell peppers and cucumber for my tea tonight. :O:

Skybird 10-01-19 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2630102)
FACT WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE.....So just enjoy life. :)

I eat very little meat as I am more of a fish eater but the price of fresh fish is now out my price range, tin tuna is no real substitute for fresh fish.

Tin tuna is not tin tuna, they are not all of the same quality and taste. I just discovered Saupiquet. I looked down on them for years, due to their luxurious prices, but then tried some of theirs, and now have tested all their stuff. Some of it is a rip-off, cheap vegetable and almost no tuna, but some other stuff is extremely nice. Two of their three pasta sauces/oils work miracle and wonder, two of their six "salads" I also like to have, on a bike tour for a break for example. Two of their three bread spreads have displaced my occasional use of tea sausage or liver sausage. The ordinary tuna tin cans by them I would not use, however, they are overpriced, and as said: some of their products are rip-offs, also are not good. But the items that I like by them, I like very much, and thus I pay the price for these. Needs some discovering mentality.

Frozen tuna from the fridge works well, too, and can be had at reasonable prices. i use it far more often for BBQ or in the pan than I prepare a beef steak these days, its cheaper, but has a tough bite.

Reece 10-01-19 07:29 AM

Now who doesn't like eating the tails of grilled lamb loin chops? All of a sudden I'm hungry!! :yep:

Skybird 10-01-19 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece (Post 2630108)
STEED, don't eat too much tuna, I believe it contains mercury!! :hmmm:

What fish does not, they all swim in the same oceans. ;)


Microplastic, anyone? Every human baby now has it in its body from birth on, they recently claimed.


Reminds me of this episode form "Northern Exposure", when they recall an event form the past, some friend of theirs working in a fish factory and falling into the machine where the fish was canned. "They had to retrieve hundreds of tins from the stores. I will never forget the funeral - the sight of several hundred tin cans lowered into the grave." :haha: - Wonderful series.

Skybird 10-01-19 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece (Post 2630120)
Now who doesn't like eating the tails of grilled lamb loin chops? All of a sudden I'm hungry!! :yep:

Lamb in mint sauce à la My Style. I use three drops of mint oil, not just the green stuff. With salt potatoes and green beans in a coat of roasted bacon.



My fastening day today. :timeout: Every 4 days or so.

Reece 10-01-19 07:59 AM

Good on ya, I wish I was that strong, mind you I'm not overweight, thanks for the cooking tip, I might give it a try! :yep:

Jimbuna 10-01-19 08:13 AM

Simply put....I'm a carnviore.

Jeff-Groves 10-01-19 02:18 PM

Aside from shrimp I don't eat those nasty non-air breathing things that live in water.
Now a good chunk of Gator or Alabama ditch bugs are tasty.
Not to mention Rattle Snake.

My favorite is BEEF! The more the better!
:yeah:

fred8615 10-01-19 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2630121)
Reminds me of this episode form "Northern Exposure", when they recall an event form the past, some friend of theirs working in a fish factory and falling into the machine where the fish was canned. "They had to retrieve hundreds of tins from the stores. I will never forget the funeral - the sight of several hundred tin cans lowered into the grave." :haha: - Wonderful series.

Somehow I missed that one. :har:

Aktungbby 10-01-19 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Reece (Post 2630108)
STEED, don't eat too much tuna, I believe it contains mercury!! :hmmm:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece (Post 2630096)
Always ate red meat, especially lamb, and at 67 I'm not gonna stop!! :yep:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece (Post 2630120)
Now who doesn't like eating the tails of grilled lamb loin chops? All of a sudden I'm hungry!! :yep:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2630131)
Simply put....I'm a carnviore.

:Kaleun_Applaud:

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2630195)
Aside from shrimp I don't eat those nasty non-air breathing things that live in water.
Now a good chunk of Gator or Alabama ditch bugs are tasty.
Not to mention Rattle Snake.

My favorite is BEEF! The more the better!
:yeah:

last night was bbq'd burgers; tonite is grilled lamb chops; and tomorrow nite will be salmon with apricot/ginger glaze & grill roasted peppers, onions and red potatos-wrapped in foil; all served with a two-buck chuck chardonnay!:Kaleun_Salivating:

STEED 10-01-19 04:57 PM

I may have a greggs chicken pasty tomorrow, tried their vegan roll the other day and I just do not get the craze for it, it was bloody tasteless!

Reece 10-01-19 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2630224)
:Kaleun_Applaud:

last night was bbq'd burgers; tonite is grilled lamb chops; and tomorrow nite will be salmon with apricot/ginger glaze & grill roasted peppers, onions and red potatos-wrapped in foil; all served with a two-buck chuck chardonnay!:Kaleun_Salivating:

:O::O::O:

Skybird 10-01-19 08:12 PM

Pork I do not eat since years, it just is nothing I crave for, but beef in the past years also got somewhat rare. Mostly I eat chicken, veal, and fish has gone up in my preference list significantly. No health and environmental considerations in these changes, it all was due to changes in taste and interest. Fish means tuna both in cans and as filet steaks for grilling them, and also much salmon. I discovered catfish recently, and plan to get back to it. On bread I prefer either sweet spreads, especially nougat and Austrian jam, or cheese of variosu kinds, cold cuts are extremely rare on my table. I eat just twice a day, and not at all every fourth day or so. I am doing intermittent fastening since over a year now. Killed 15 kg in six months. I do not ban anything I like to eat, sweets sins included, I just limit the time of the day when I eat to an 8 hour interval. Oh, and lots of cacao and Espresso. No beer anynmore, but alcohol-free white beer: the irony here is that I do not like neither white beer no alcohol-free beer, but non-alcoholic white beer I kill for. Wine frequently, Bayleys too, a mild Scottish malt (Dalwhinnie) or an Irish whisky (Jameson 1780) rarely. Whisky is harsh enough, if I drink it, then it must not be an especially coarse one, but a mild one.

Typical "American breakfast" with eggs, ham and all that, is horror for me, and always was. Breakfast means coffee, bread and sweet spreads to me. But usually I do not eat anything before noon or early afternoon. At noon: breakfast. Lunch is in the evening. No supper. My starsign is Aquaruius, we do things differently. :O:

Beef for Gulasch, and steak, and mince. Veal for Wiener Schnitzel. No pork. No barbecue sausages. Lots of chicken. Sometimes lamb, its expensive, and I use it only for mint sauce.

I buy "from the region", when available in the store, why I should buy potatoes from other countries when potato farmers in my neighbourhood face an already difficult market, is beyond me. From far away places I only buy what is not avialable locally - but I then buy it for sure, if I want it. These are the only environmental consideration I pay attention to, the rest or moral and ecological and pltlical and else demands I do not even "boycott": but it does not even come to my mind to waste my time with that nonsense. "Carbon footprint" and all that collective mass hype and ritual also do not interest me at all. They just want to keep you running with they themselves swinging the whip and raising fear so that you have no time to come to rest and start thinking yourself. A mind that is thinking their thoughts cannot think ideologically unwanted own thoughts.


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