social engineering getting more and more popular?
 

Stories like this I find simply disturbing.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110626/...r_neutral_tots


This is social engineering at its finest.

"Nearly all the children's books deal with homosexual couples, single parents or adopted children. There are no "Snow White," "Cinderella" or other classic fairy tales seen as cementing stereotypes."

Isn't that cementing other more liberal stereotypes?

This is an example, which has been ongoing in Sweden, (in time) and are no general rules, I would say it is starting, anchored to the immigration policy, and integration, and is in an experimental stage and not the law,of government Constitution, and that the outcome is uncertain at present.

I find it very...don't know....repulsive...strange....idiotic
I have daughter (a ginger one lol) i always tell her that she can become whatever she wants or do whatever she feels to do.
She should achieve all this as a women not some genderless creature.
She is woman with her advantages and no need for her to prove otherwise.

Its some insecure feminism gone wild.:damn:

You have a lot of points here, this is according to me, a bureaucratic control of the analysis, statistical group of people who are really smell sh!t, :shifty:

I have no problem with teaching children at an early age (as long as they understand; if they have no concept of different sexes, than this is probably worthless, but I'll wait for Sky to confirm this) about difference and tolerance and working together. But this...this is just another bias. "Righteous" bias, considering that they are a "minority" (I very much hate this term), yet bias nevertheless. This won't broaden the mind of children, this will limit them even more. No need to tell them about prince Charming or the gallant warrior (which most fairly and folk tales are based on, in different variations of course), just make sure they understand that "different" is allright, even though the children, again, have no conception of it.

Frankly, I want this kindergarden to continue its work. If not for anything else, I wish to see how these kids will react when they reach puberty, where everything is about gender differences. I wonder how gender neutral their hormone riddled mind will work then.

Yes, but you've been telling her she's a daughter, with all of society's stereotypes of that. That will limit her choices on a psychological level. Free will after a lot of indoctrination (accidental or otherwise) is not really free.

I think the worst objection most would have is that Snow White stuff, but if we are to make a good go of such attempts, we will have to do that. They will have plenty of opportunities to meet Snow White after school anyway, so concentrating on other things within the school seems like the right balancer.

There's nothing like screwing up a Kid's mind, while they're young enough to "just" absorb it, without question.
Bring back the REAL woman.
The one who could handle the toughest, and most important job in the world - Mother!
Bring back the REAL man to support and defend her, and their kids.

Not like the Hitler Youth then?

REAL women, brought up in the the BDM:o

There is no justice in this world unless the baby crocodile grows up to eat Dad and Dad... :D

Silly giraffes. They should have adopted a gimpy emu instead. :O:



Edit - On the topic at hand:

I would be worried if it were a number of schools performing that sort of brainwashing. This article seems to focus on one school in particular. Let's wait and see if the kids' eyes start glowing in the next ten years. If so then we shall have to nuke them... or simply find a suitable military purpose for them. :arrgh!:

If croc is in the story it must be probably vegetarian -it would sort of feet to this... :D.

No offence the vegs on the forum.

Don't stur the Herd, don't rock the boat, be quiet and do as you're told, do as I say not as I do, That's social engineering. I'm getting a little tried of these self proclaimed monarchs. Moooooooo baby:rock:

What do you guys expect?This is the same nation that gave us ABBA(not half bad as the chicks where hot) and Ikea(founded in Sweden) and Ace of Base.:hmmm:


(Sorry to all you normal Swedes I have been to your country before I know that you are not all like this.)

ABBA and Ace of Base,they suck.....I am glad that you've been here, when it was if I may ask?

Dude if it wasn't for ABBA I wouldn't even known that Sweden existed. :) Funny that, my sisters loved ABBA when I was a kid I remember them playing their songs every day. I hated ABBA I thought their music was too girly like. But now I like to blast a Abba song every now and then and its my sisters who think I'm the weirdo when I do it. I wish they would do a world tour I would go see them. :yep:

There is no limit on psychological level unless you assume that telling someone that she is a girl/woman somehow limits her.
Actually you don't need to tell woman that she is woman.
She sort of naturally acts as women but sometimes because of environmental presser she can chose to prove that she is more a man than a man...
Some Lesbian who's supposedly have differently hardwired brain act more manly naturally.
Unless you claim that being a gay is environment thing-then you know....this experiment certainty should not take place.
It actually contradict itself right now.

I don't expect my daughter to be just good mother and house wife and prepare soups for 10 kids from morning to night.
Quite opposite but the above stuff is freakish bull.
Beside some nutty feminists who push their personality disorder ideas riding the woman discrimination wagon i think most women enjoy being treated as women.
I'm not saying that there is no discrimination toward women but the above its not the way to go.

Oh just around Stockholm I was in a summer exchange program back in high school.The Swedish family the father was a lawyer so they had some little house on a lake out of town as well this was in summer '93 '94 worked out pretty well for me as it seemed that Swedish girls that where 16 or 17 where rather uh.... interested in Americans:up: to be 17 again the next summer
I had a drill instructor screaming in my face it was a contrast to say the least good thing I did not attempt any social engineering then the Sarges face would have turned fry an egg red.:haha:

LOL :DL

The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Edward Bernayes