SH4 worth it?
 

Good evening all you happy submarine drivers. I have been snooping around on this forum for awhile but now i decided to actually register and post my first thread...cause i have a question to ask from you guys who know about these things soo much more than me.

I have been playing SH3 for couple of days and so far i like it very much. Now i am thinking about purchasing SH4 but certain sources tell me it is not worth it and that SH3 is so much better. Now i wan't to ask your opinions oh gurus of submarine simulators. I know SH4 was disapointment in it's original form but i am speaking about both games with addons installed. Is SH4 worth it with addons if i like SH3 or will i be happier with just concentrating on SH3?

Thank you in advance!

Welcome Aboard
 

Win,or lose, you might die tryng. Beauty is to the eye of beholder.:salute:

Depends on what you like really... SH4 is graphicly more beautiful but SH3/GWX has better game play and a better career IMO. It also depends on your preferences as to if you prefer US Fleet boats in the Pacific or German U-Boats in the Atlantic... I'd say give it try if you're interested.

Good luck and Welcome Aboard! :arrgh!:

Out of the box it had it's issues, not unlike 3 for that matter. But patched and now modded it ( for both the PTO and ATO ) is an enjoyable sim in it's own right.

Do yourself a favor and check out some of the older and current threads in that forum as well, SH4.

@ Irish, you care to elaborate a little more, after all this is a new member. Thanks.

It's a Sub-Sim. Of course it's worth it!

See what it feels like to be on the winning side for a change!

JCC

No one can deny that SH4 is a great sub sim it is totally different then SH3 and now has many add-on versions to keep you amused.
but is not for me I am waiting for SH5 this i will have to try :salute:

Welcome Aboard :salute:

They are both good sim & our modders make them better. I cut my sub teeth on SHIII so I prefer that. I also have SHIV which I play once in a while so not to bruis mu US Citizenship.

If you perfer uboats... stay with sh3...

If you want american fleet boats... try sh4.

my preference is for u-boats in the atlantic, however i've recently started playing sh4 because of all the sub films i've been watching recently, those 40's/50's films were absolutely cracking! and i'm now in need of a balao class sub to swim around in ;)
manual targeting with a Fleet boat is easy enough but firing a spread is murder.

I put SH4 on and then took it off, but then again i prefer the Atlantic and the odds against you game. If you like SH3 put on the GWX 3 it improves SH3 by at least a third more. Its a beautiful Mod.

Last but not least -- Welcome to our little home.

Thank you for all the nice replys.

I have gwx3 with SH3 already. I never even tried it without so i can't really say how it improves it cause i never saw the stock one. But i must say i like it so it must be good. :)

The reason i am asking about SH4 is that i am a poor student and don't have that much money to spend on games and i was thinking it's useless to buy it if i just play it couple of times before leaving it for SH3. It's not that pricey anymore i see but one gets lots of food with that money anyway.

Leave SH4 on the shelf.

In my opinion SH3 + GWX, or NYGM, or LSH3 or WAC is much more interesting because you're the 'underdog' :D

BTW, Welcome! Subsim.com is the right place to be. :yep:

Welcome aboard Ernohauki and good luck with the studies http://www.psionguild.org/forums/ima...lies/read2.gif

I like both...as with most people here, I think, it depends on mood.

GWX is absolutely lovely. Gameplay and atmosphere are lovingly attended to, and you can't go wrong.

I do have a lot of interest in the fleet boats, though. Some of my coolest memories are from visiting a couple of them that are now museum ships. SH4 is the only thing that allows you to put 'em in action.

Completely different feel, though. In the Atlantic, you start out fairly confident, and, as the war goes on (and you know you'll lose anyway,) things get more desperate both tactically and strategically. I send out a max of 5 torpedoes and sink about 3 ships per convoy attack, typically. Then...wait for the storm of DC's, which only get closer and closer for each attack as the months scroll by.

In the Pacific, rampaging around in a Gato-class boat is much more optimistic. You know your side wins, and things get better for you as the war progresses. You've got 10 fish on call per attack, with reloads to spare. That's a lot more firepower than I've gotten used to in the Type VIIB.

Also, the Pacific is way bigger. Even at ~8000x compression it takes forever (on my slowish computer) for me to get to my patrol zone from Pearl.

Mind you, I just got SH4 running, haven't modded it yet, compared to SH3, which has been GWX/SH3 Commanderified.

First impression of SH4 is good...the weather is certainly nicer. :D

SH4 has developed into a nice subsim. In my opinion... SH3 and SH4 both came fresh out of the box with bugs... however the bugs in SH4 were much more critical and persistent.

my preference is for the u-boats, the war for them was more challenging, and the situation more desperate.

modded, SH4 is nice, but SH3 remains king of the silent hunter series... especially with the mood and feel of GWX.

I've been playing U-boats with SH4 and Operation Monsun for some time now. Immersion-wise, SH3 with GWX gives more feel to the harbors and such, and adds more, and has had a lot more development time. That said, SH4 is much more stable, gives really cool latitude and longitude coordinates on the map, and the U-boat add-on gives KM grid squares right down to the fourth digit! I'm having a great time alternating between playing both.

Yes, there is still a long way to go (and it may never get there for u-boats, with SH5 on the horizon), but SH4 is definitely worth the money for the way the crew management works, and for the way it looks inside when you order Battle Stations. Loads of fun.

Welcome aboard, lad... :arrgh!:

If you enjoy the Pacific War install sh4 + patch 1.4...and install the follow mods: Trigger Maru Overhaul and RUIM_v1.0_for_SH4v1.4_HI-S mod with JSGME Enabler and you will be all right! :D