Why is Obama telling the world that Americans are pathetic and fueling hate?
 

Why? SOmeone tell me this. We had a thread earlier about him telling Muslim extremists that we were in the wrong and that the extremists were right all along. Now we have Obama telling the EU that we are in the wrong on GW. I forgot what he told Russia.

Someone tell me why our leader hates us and loves the rest of the world?

I've been keeping my mouth shut on Obama for some time, only posting the occasional outrageous article and avoiding the discussion, but this is getting out of hand.

Maybe I just need someone to explain it to me.

-S

i have said it in other posts.

the white house was purchased in cash by one or more middle eastern parties.

this is one of the most masterful and deceptive infiltrations in history.

50% joke
50% serious

i dont know - given the world we live in it is probably 100% fact :nope:

Link, please. :shifty: I want to see the POTUS saying "the extremists were right" in exactly those words.

Have at it:

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=353923

"President Bush would never have criticised our military or our intelligence community on foreign soil," former George Bush speechwriter Marc Thiessen said on Fox News. "He basically threw our military under the bus in front of a Muslim audience."

-S

Sorry, I don't agree with your conclusions regarding that video. I won't try to argue who's opinion is correct as that will go nowhere fast, I just don't reach the same opinion of it because I do believe the USA crossed the line and sullied ourselves from a higher moral ground. Maybe those morals are only our own, but of what value are they if even we don't believe in them.

Buddahaid

Enough of the morals and values BS. That's the same tired stuff that people have been going on about for years now. The simple fact of the matter is if you're in the wrong, you're in the wrong; and what we did in Iraq was just wrong. We made false/misleading accusations (by that I mean evidence was later revealed to be contrary to our immediate assumptions at the time/no evidence was found to support what we'd claimed) about them to make a declaration of war (about WMDs, Hussein backing terrorist groups directly involved in September 11th, you know the drill), we furthermore violated international law by declaring war, but perhaps the worst thing of all that we did was upset the situation in the Middle East (which spawned negative results for Israel and Saudi Arabia--political mostly, such as increased hostility and/or activity from terrorist groups-- and also escalated the levels of civil unrest within Iraq itself).

Well looking past the fact that this is his speechwriter and not Bush who is making this assertion, I would not be surprised if he didn't criticise what we started over there or admit to a mistake for that matter; the man has an ego the size of the Western Hemisphere. HOWEVER, I would not rule the possibility out; stranger things have been said and happened before.

He did no such thing. He admitted that we made some mistakes. It's as simple as that. We're a nation just like anybody else, and as such we DO make mistakes. We're not perfect, nobody is, and that's that. Get over it. If you think we are, take a step back and try to understand oncemore how reality works.

Would a bought,& paid for black suit,& tie ,be civil ?

So, you made this quote up?
Because that video you posted does not have anything remotely like this in it. I did hear Obama admit that the people of Iraq are better off without Hussein, and a lot of talking out of both sides of his mouth, but I asked for backup that Obama said extremists were right all along. I don't care what Marc Thiessen said. I don't need a talking head to help me form my opinions.

Got any evidence?

I mean, obviously with such a masterful and deceptive infiltration there won't be any evidence, but just on the off-chance.....

You really should get in touch with the relevant authorities.

You've got something on your shoulder there.

Apollo 11 was an inside job!

I think its quite well known that the Muslims landed on the moon first.

I have no problem with that speech. Seems easier to promote our ideals to others when we are mature enough to admit when we trample on them ourselves.

Made me laugh.

And yeah, modesty is something I look up upon when it comes to politics:yep:

There hasn't been a declaration of war by this country since WW II.

I know that, you know that, but we are the United States of America. As such we are held to a higher standard than anyone else. We do make mistakes but the global consequences for those mistakes are much higher. Realizing this we have to adhere to those higher standards if we wish to maintain our reputation.

In the wingnut mind, there's no way a brown skinned man with a funny sounding name could have won a fair election in their vision of "'A'merka" so they invent these conspiracies in the face of all facts to square their vision with reality.

Lets get carried away with the facts, okay.

1. Having gone to Harvard Obama is probabaly smarter than anyone on this forum except for August, okay :smug:

2. Obama won by a large voter turn out that included millions of white voters voting for him too. He is a very popular president. :)

3. Before Hillary gave up Bill Clinton said Obama didn't have what it takes (experience) to be the president of the United States of America. Allow me this one future thought, Obama is proving this and if he stumbles guess who is getting the experience to become the 46th president of the United States of America ... If you said Hillary Clinton you are correct. :salute:

4 Obama attended a church in Chicago for 22 years and never heard his pastor preach one single anti-american sermon (give me a break) Rev Wright was and still is his friend. His children were baptised in that church and untill recently was the only church he had ever been a member of ... :hmmm:

5. As of June 2009 Mr Obama had attended more Muslim mosque than he had a christian (which he proclaims to be) churches. His failure to locate a church in the Washington, DC area was given to his popularity and need for security. Barack Obama still looking for church

Okay, we give him that one, remembering that Mr Bush also chose to stay at home and attend a closed church service at Camp David which after six months of no home church Mr Obama has also now selected to be his church. Don't think this is not important in future events.

6. Who would be on the inside track of knowing how many passports Mr Obama had in the 1980's ... the State Department has that information and you already know who runs that department.

7. Mr Obama has 30 so called czars guiding him on what to do ... who are they and what do they tell him? :o

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/16/fox-debunks-czars/

There is no number eight ... I have to go repent from reading the news and smiling that Mr Obama is on the way down. The Lord doesn't like my smirk and I don't want to be linked with Rush Limbo either.

More facts to chew on: Obama meets with Mormon leader

read again

50% joke
50% refusal to disclose where a large chunk of his campaign finance came from because america would be pissed if they knew

so relax :woot:

Large chunk?

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/su...goButt2=Submit

Quote:

Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1137987) Large chunk? http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/su...goButt2=Submit

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_illegal_donations/2008/10/19/141979.html

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/Obama_fundraising_illegal/2008/09/29/135718.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/donations.asp


look my link posty thing works too :D w00+
all im saying is - without regard to "whos guy it is"
- if a lot ... hell if ANY... of his campaign money came from undisclosed overseas interests, wouldnt you want to know WHO it was :06:

and why is he not telling?

something to hide?

does he not know himself who donated?

respecting the privacy of his contributors?

or something sinister?

it could be any one of those reasons, but would we be irresponsible for not at least CHECKING ???