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bookworm_020 11-19-08 02:47 AM

One for the trekkies!
 
Trailer for the new movie is out!

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...001021,00.html

I just let you all get on with it as it isn't my thing!:88)

Dowly 11-19-08 02:56 AM

Boooo!!!
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...rret/Londo.jpg

Rilder 11-19-08 03:02 AM

I'm pretty trekkie but it doesn't look that interesting.

goldorak 11-19-08 04:44 AM

Ok it isn't Star Trek The Motion Picture by any stretch of the imagination, but I'll go see it anyways. :yep:

Skybird 11-19-08 05:29 AM

Looks an awful lot like any of these TV-series they have these days filled with beautiful featureless young faces, plot tailored for juveniles and teenagers. Don't like what I see in that trailer. Looks like "Melrose Place" in space. Und überall diese Milchgesichter... :dead: Is the movie about babysitting in space?

Rhodes 11-19-08 06:40 AM

I was thinking on opening a new thread about the movie since images and the TV spot were release a few days and bookworm_020 did the job:up: .

After a saw the trailer, that confirms several things, I :nope: :nope: :nope: and :x :x :x . And so :dead: after I saw the image of kirk and the enterprise :huh: !

For a interesting comment on the movie and ship:

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/mi...xi_comment.htm

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/ar...se_comment.htm

This movie will be the XXI century vision of Star Trek. So one must began to separate the "old trek universe" (with may have or not the Enterprise series) from the "new trek universe". And the movie can be good also...:lol:

Onkel Neal 11-19-08 08:21 AM

Star Trek = Awesome

longam 11-19-08 09:11 AM

Fascinating

Boris 11-19-08 09:17 AM

Looks kinda like "Star trek: Revenge of the Sith" to me :rotfl:

DeepIron 11-19-08 09:18 AM

Ah... the last rattling gasp of a dying franchise... And, because they ran out of original plots, the writers fell back on the "Sex Device". I'm a lifelong fan of StarTrek and to a lesser extent, the spin-offs. But I may just "walk on by" the theatres and wait for the DVD on this one...

ReallyDedPoet 11-19-08 09:31 AM

Looking forward to it. Change is not a bad thing. It worked with Batman, it worked with James Bond, maybe it will here as well.


RDP

Kimmy 11-19-08 12:41 PM

Oh! I'm really looking forward to this one. They won't ever replace the verve and sex appeal of a young Shatner, but knowing Abrams, the film will be quality entertainment.

Live long and prosper!

PS: to all ya haters: Phasers on stun :smug:

AVGWarhawk 11-19-08 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird
Looks an awful lot like any of these TV-series they have these days filled with beautiful featureless young faces, plot tailored for juveniles and teenagers. Don't like what I see in that trailer. Looks like "Melrose Place" in space. Und überall diese Milchgesichter... :dead: Is the movie about babysitting in space?

Yep...it is Beverly Hills 90210 meets The Enterprise!

DeepIron 11-19-08 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
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Originally Posted by Skybird
Looks an awful lot like any of these TV-series they have these days filled with beautiful featureless young faces, plot tailored for juveniles and teenagers. Don't like what I see in that trailer. Looks like "Melrose Place" in space. Und überall diese Milchgesichter... :dead: Is the movie about babysitting in space?

Yep...it is Beverly Hills 90210 meets The Enterprise!

ya know, maybe you've got something there AVG... Perhaps a spin-off series after the movie to hook the "youngsters" and bring back the franchise...

It worked for Superman in "Smallville."

AVGWarhawk 11-19-08 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
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Originally Posted by Skybird
Looks an awful lot like any of these TV-series they have these days filled with beautiful featureless young faces, plot tailored for juveniles and teenagers. Don't like what I see in that trailer. Looks like "Melrose Place" in space. Und überall diese Milchgesichter... :dead: Is the movie about babysitting in space?

Yep...it is Beverly Hills 90210 meets The Enterprise!

ya know, maybe you've got something there AVG... Perhaps a spin-off series after the movie to hook the "youngsters" and bring back the franchise...

It worked for Superman in "Smallville."

Well, yesterday I read about this and there is sex and Capt Kirk checking out Lt Auhura while she is undressing. My first thought was this is 90210 meets Ster Trek. It seemed to be getting silly. I stopped reading.

DeepIron 11-19-08 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepIron
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
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Originally Posted by Skybird
Looks an awful lot like any of these TV-series they have these days filled with beautiful featureless young faces, plot tailored for juveniles and teenagers. Don't like what I see in that trailer. Looks like "Melrose Place" in space. Und überall diese Milchgesichter... :dead: Is the movie about babysitting in space?

Yep...it is Beverly Hills 90210 meets The Enterprise!

ya know, maybe you've got something there AVG... Perhaps a spin-off series after the movie to hook the "youngsters" and bring back the franchise...

It worked for Superman in "Smallville."

Well, yesterday I read about this and there is sex and Capt Kirk checking out Lt Auhura while she is undressing. My first thought was this is 90210 meets Ster Trek. It seemed to be getting silly. I stopped reading.

The ironic aspect of the whole Kirk and Uhura thing is that they actually did the first "interracial kiss" on network television in the StarTrek series. The episode was "Plato's Stepchildren" if I remember correctly...

MothBalls 11-19-08 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
Yep...it is Beverly Hills 90210 meets The Enterprise!

Star Trek - The Academy Years. Join the crew of the Enterprise while they navigate the perils of Star Fleet Academy. Boldly go where no student has gone before.

Phhhttttt....



Why don't they just take it to "The Next Generation" again. Go beyond warp drive and the newest Enterprise has the ability to fold space and explore the entire Galaxy, or other galaxies.

Bring back Voyager and let them have an accident where the fold drive takes them to another Galaxy.... and they disappear forever.

Set up a new station, DS999, on the other side of the Galaxy.

AVGWarhawk 11-19-08 01:01 PM

DI, yep...I remember it. I'm 43 and grew up on the reruns. :up: So, yeah, it is a spin from the early show. Then again, ST was always attempting to address the days social issues but just in deep space.

AVGWarhawk 11-19-08 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MothBalls
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
Yep...it is Beverly Hills 90210 meets The Enterprise!

Star Trek - The Academy Years. Join the crew of the Enterprise while they navigate the perils of Star Fleet Academy. Boldly go where no student has gone before.

Phhhttttt....



Why don't they just take it to "The Next Generation" again. Go beyond warp drive and the newest Enterprise has the ability to fold space and explore the entire Galaxy, or other galaxies.

Bring back Voyager and let them have an accident where the fold drive takes them to another Galaxy.... and they disappear forever.

Set up a new station, DS999, on the other side of the Galaxy.


Well, we know were Capt Kirk is going boldy were no man has gone before....:rotfl:Just were is that communications officer?

AntEater 11-19-08 01:13 PM

Actually, the old series was quite cheesy in its days.
William Shatner ('nuff said), dead Redshirts, sex crazed female aliens, fistfights with dinosaurs with zippers on their backs...
I think the ratio of really great to outrageously bad episodes was about 1:1.
Star Treck is interesting in the way it changed with society.
TOS was still a bit western like
TNG was politically correct, nonviolent (how often I wished Picard would simply blast all those alien idiots to hell instead of negotiating) and racially integrated, even with Androids.
DS9 was in some ways the most interesting, but was still too stuck the conventional storywriting of Star Trek.
Voyager had a great idea but I always wondered how they managed to get their ship shot to hell every episode and get her shipshape again with no noticable change the next episode.
Never saw Enterprise, though.
I watched some DS9 last (Season 6 I think, the one with Nicole de Boer) season episodes on Stage6 before it went down, and was struck by how conventional and predictable even the least conventional and predictable Star Trek show was compared to BSG or even many Babylon 5 episodes.
I hadn't seen any Star Trek show for a few years, I must admit.
Almost no story arcs, always two stories per episode, often one serious, one funny, then a mostly miraculous and often illogical resolution of at least one of them, with a moral message.
I know that the producers of BSG were once storywriters for DS9, but apparently I missed their episodes.
To be short, if they ever want to do another star trek TV series, they will have to do some serious catching up because until the very last episode, it seems that ST was still a very old fashioned TV show dramaturgically.

Regarding the "young" crew, Shatner and Nemoy were not teenage stars anymore in the old series, but the whole Kirk/Spock star trek movies except for the first were some kind of "pandering to the baby boomers getting old" kind of sheme.
Now the boomers are getting fewer and fewer and they need new target groups.

One problem with Star Trek (with all SF series) here is bad dubbing. Especially since even a relatively nonviolent series like ST has a lot of military terms in it which german dubbing studios apparently have no idea about.
On the other hand, German TNG never had the nagging question why Captain PicarD was a frenchman with a perfect Oxfort accent.


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