V.P. Debate poll
 

Noticed no one put one of these up yet :hmm:

A tie. Neither made any giant gaffes. It wasn't the train wreck that I thought it may be. Fairly dull.

The only thing of any real interest that struck me was how impartial and professional the moderator was given the host of complaints and outrage by some members on this forum and by the McCain campaign.

Oh yeah, and that single VP debate ain't going to make jack of a difference come the November election but everyone knew that anyway. ;)

Definitely a tie, which is a win for McCain/Palin since everyone expected her to fall on her face and also a win for Obama/Biden because many expected Jokin' Joe to gaffe himself to death. Both sides made points, both sides distorted the truth to fit their points.

The saddest part of all was the moderation. The rules were laid out before the questions started and after the first question, the moderator (and I use the term loosely) broke the rules by going on to the second question without the 2 minute rebuttal period. Overall, a very disorganized affair. PBS should be ashamed of the first two debates since, IMHO, both moderators were complete failures. Hope the next two are more debate and less speech.

Ill have to admit, the moderator did a good job of trying to be impartial.

Bidin did admit to being against Gay Marrige, which supprised me. Im sure that alone will lose them some votes. He made a few other gaffes, along with a few outright lies at which Palin missed a real opportunity.

Palin came off a little too 'common folk' and stammered a bit at first. But I felt once she got over the jitters and stuck to conservitave Reganesque principals she did well.

I picked up on that "common folksy" too. Supriseingly non of my friends did. Oh well.

It's whar they take them leftover nukelar fewell from the nukelar pahr playnt and spin it round and round until it gets dizzy and then they jam it all together in a warhaid on top of one of them thar missiles to blow stuff up.:D

Thats newclur... sheese get it right...

Okay for some fun "Fact checking" yea I know its fox but facts is facts.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10...ential-debate/

IMO Sarah needs to knock off the "Geez, gosh golly " stuff. I too was not impressed by the debate. Really what I would like to see is both candidates Obama and McCain do an address the nation type deal on the TV. Simply present their plans in detail, because that is what we want to know. Not his same old "he voted for this or that", over and over again...

You dont feel that the candidates past voting records are relevant?

It is repeated over and over again because the average american has the attention span of a gnat on speed.

I watched it and the post debate anaysis on ABC. This part was priceless; very typical:roll: . They gave the debate a tie, no naturally, when the score is a tie, you declare Biden the winner.:rotfl:

I thought the debate was all fluff, zero substance. I think they both met their goals: Biden: Mccann=bush and Palin held her ground..


The best I heard was Dennis Miller on Leno last night. Now that was funny! Hopefully it will be on youtube soon. His critisism of obama was spot on and really funny.

Nah... it's "new clear"... Avon's new face cream for politicians who constantly have egg on their face...

Yeah, this blame game stuff is lame. George Bush stomps kittens and John Mccann will stomp kittens too.

Althought Palin had a really bad gaffe when she kept talking about General McCleallan.:oops:

If Iwas mccan/palin, I would attack all of obama's "present" votes:roll: . Every issue, every time he voted present. i suppose no one is interested in the Rezko stuff:roll:

Indeed.
IMO, McCain tries to run a 'honorable' campaign. Instead of going out and confront Obama and Biden directly, he is fighting with one hand tied behind his back. It seems to me, that McCain is sacrificing the Presidency and the future of the USA on the altar of his personal honor. I might be wrong, but that's how I see it.

I think what he was referring to was listening to them TALK about their voting records. It's funny that they try to infer all kinds of things knowing that the average person won't check them on it. Like Biden and deregulation. And who gets the most campaign contributions from who. It's all out there to see if you look hard enough, but most people just take what's said as fact.

'Honorable'? Really. In the last election whenever the Democrats would complain about the Swift Boat ads, I was quick to bring up the fact that their side compared Bush to Hitler long before that.

But this time? McCain's intense attacks started right at the beginning. I lost any respect for him as a candidate right then.

Honorable in McCains own view.. that's why I put it in ' ' ;)

Somehow, we have confused the idea that political aptitude has anything to do with political success. Palin wins by holding her own, more or less. Period.

Watch as the McCain-Palin ticket locks up a large portion of the swing vote (read ,female vote) and goes on to win in November. Short of a liberal media rally that somehow dienfranchises female voters, I don't see any hope of victory for Obama.

The main problem that Obama faces lies in the fact that women are an important liberal demographic. Therefore, a female vote for the McCain ticket is not +1 vote for the Republicans, but rather, -1 vote for the Dems +1 vote for the Republicans.
Couple that with the relatively high voter turnout of Republicans versus the relatively low turnout of Dems and you have a Republican victory.

Next, factor in that Obama is black. There are a lot of trailer-park democrats who won't vote for him just because of that, civil rights be damned. Even if they won't say it quite like that.

McCain-Palin is the winner in '08. Best start debating what that entails rather than who will win.

Question me if you like but expect to see this post quoted, by me, in November. :D

I don't like it, and I don't like the alternative, but that's how it is.

Yes, but allow me to qualify that.

Many will. Not all of course. But even if we supposed that a relatively small number of women voted for McCain because of Palin, this would be very damaging to the Democratic cause.

There are a lot of female Hillary supporters that have switched sides because of the Palin nomination.

Naturally, this is not the only factor, but many factors are working against Obama here.


McCain will win in 08' wait and see.....

The thing that makes me most upset:

ASK THESE 2 PUTZES ABOUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, NOT ONE QUESTION ABOUT THIS!!!!!!!



Stop asking about gay marrage, and ask about real issues.

That's what happens when you let idiots moderate the "debates" and the moderator chooses the questions.