Boats and Ships without a TAIL
 

As the new language of the Royal Navy was being taught to us in the late months of 1950; we the New Intake were constantly raising the wrath of a very plump, awesome bearded, rolling gait, three badged Petty Officer and punishment was duly dished out according to the adjudged seriousness by same Petty Officer. One of his favourites for, "Being an untidy sack of spuds, tied in the middle", was to wash everybody's socks, they having worn them on the Parade Ground that day. For the gross offence of having an untidy bed space or locker was to dig the little garden, in front of our wooden hut, with a dinner fork.
H.M.S. Collingwood was at that time the training base for prospective Electrical and Radio personnel so although most of us caught these punishments, we thought little of it as we voiced...."Well this will never really apply to us tech. people!"
Some 57 years later you can probably appreciate my amazement that in playing SH3/GWX 2.0 how, having cast some dogral on the Forum about "No Tails", this memory comes to mind!!
If you got all in a dither about Port, Staboard, Fore, Aft, Bulkhead. Deckhead, Halyard and many other of these Seaman Terms, a Seamans Manual was thrown at you and that night, in front of the whole mess of fellow intakes, you had to "BOX THE COMPASS" without the book. Reciting its 31 points was no easy memory test.....but HULLO !!!!....
it all comes back to me now.
As SH3/GWX 2.0 presents us with a galaxy of NNW to SSE or ESE to WSW etc. I remember the degrees....Who needs the tail?

I can by no means claim your wealth of experience, only a number of years as a boy scout :D, but that was enough to be able to pick this no tails thing up very quickly. I agree :up:

now, since you've been in the Royal Navy, could I direct your attention to my question posted here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...20&postcount=7

I could certainly use it... more for close in maneuvering with ships all around me. I agree that you shouldn't see the tails unless you know the direction the ships are actually moving or when you get a reported contact from a German unit out there, they should report direction and there should be a tail. If you can't see them or the report doesn't contain the course of the reported ships, there should be no tail.

I like the idea of the tail on my own ship simply because it makes maneuvering so much easier in close quarters. I'm sure it's something easy to put back in too.

I don't think the map "tail" has gone as such, just that the length has been reduced to zero. I think.

Well done on surviving Collingrad, Dustyboats :D

I manage no problem without the tail, makes course plotting more realistic.

I think a tail aint to big a deal I just hope the contacts have a "dot" at the center cause I like to work form precize calcs

No they don't - not sure if they do when you zoom in on a contact.

When you zoom in (hydrophone/visual range) the tails reappear :arrgh!:

http://www.itsnature.org/forums/imag...s/wolfmoon.jpg


http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...de/wolf-38.gif

Hi jimbuna!

If its not too much trouble could you please make a mod to enable the tails for our own U Boat aswell as contacts again? just like it was in GWX 1.03 basically.

If you put the player boat tails back in, all ships will have tails.:yep: It's a single TGA and it affects all ships/planes. We have already said we will make a mod to return the tails but we're too busy enjoying our work.:arrgh!:

I can understand people having trouble with close up navigation, maybe leaving port for example, however, I use waypoints to leave port or I manually navigate from the bridge. Shouldn't be too hard to do.

As for close navigation at sea or in a convoy, at a higher level of zoom, the U-Boat and the ships within visual range will be displayed on the map with their direction of travel indicated.

If the tails do return, let it be as an optional mod, please. Personally, I like trying to hunt with no more information about a potential target than time sighted, course and rough speed ( "Slow" "Medium" etc.) Calculating that first rough interception course and then the final manoeuvering for the shot is, for me, one of the joys of GWX2.

data\Menu\Gui\ContLine.tga has changed a little since GWX1.03 ;)

There are no game breaking bugs in GWX 2.0 so there will be no need for a overhaul of the files (unless something is found). So the only other option is to release the Tails as an optional mod. It may not even be an official GWX mod but this mod will eventually surface.:yep:

Damn Dan, please don't mention that again, you know about Murphy's laws don't you? :D

Ref

Don't worry mate, I crossed myself, touched wood and had a black cat cross my path when I posted. I should be covered.:smug:

I don't understand.

The mirror in my bathroom just spontaneously burst into a thousand pieces!

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...mann/onoz1.gif

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

I LIKE the NO TAILS.

I LIKE the new GWX.

I do NOT want to go back to the old days.

Having said that...yes, there are things I hope are 'tweaked' to be more to my liking...BUT if someone does not do them...I will learn to do it myself or I will learn to live with what a fantastic group of people have done for me.

[Now Where did that manual go.....?]

I did not know that there were no tails in GWX 2.0...I really have not been able to play the game since I downloaded GWX 2.0 over a week ago! For some reason, I am back to my soccer game right now. But I think not having tails does add a touch of realism that it would be lacking otherwise.

I have removed the 'contact color/tails' mod from my FF account, purely because they are not official GWX 2.0 mods and as such are not compatable with said mod :arrgh!:

http://www.itsnature.org/forums/imag...s/wolfmoon.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...de/wolf-38.gif

It must be the small group of people who dont seem to like the game when it changes and gets a little harder.

I dont see what all the fuss is about?
I mean as Dan said in another thread when you zoom in on the nav map once you have the contact in sight it shows up. Also it still gives the ships heading when it first shows up on the map.
Its not hard to work out what direction to sail in, in order to find it.

Im not the sharpest tool in the box and if i can work it out im dam sure some of you complaining spoon fed people can.

Come on guys give the GWX team abreak and use your brains for a change. You might find something you thought you ever had.;)

Rant over
Good post Dustyboats.:up: