This is outrageous! can't the modders sue XI? or ubisoft should be making a stand, did they agree to this XI addon? they should be supporting the modders and say nope, no way.

Maybe Subsim should do a deal with the modders and get together a cd like they did with SH2 add all the mods to the cd and sell for a small price. Maybe call it The REAL Seawolfs expansion. That'll really piss of XI and I for one would buy a cd coming from Subsim providing the modders agreed with the sale.

:hulk:

This is the same as if microsoft made a dozen updates put them on there website for free to dl and i came along copied them all to a cd packaged it in a nice box and called it the WindowsXP expanison ultilities pack then put a price tag on it. Microsoft would sue the pants of me.

X1 are pirates.

Unbelievable! I gotta go and sink something.

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You, sir, are a troll, by definition.
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Well, since I have repeatedly stated I have nothing to do with X-1 but desire to stop a KKK style lynching while also stated I would gladly vote the ban once the "evidence" is in..
You insist a fair representation of facts, but that should be not as you see them but as someone, like myself, that has no side but the desire for a healthy SH3 community and wants to let this work out without a cross burning mentality that you continue to propose.
I am not on the X-1 side and would be on the modder’s side if the facts warrant it

I assume you are unaware of what a troll is as this does not fit the definition. Unless a troll is anyone that has a different opinion than yours.

Real mature!

I have asked for everyone to note I have nothing to do with X-1 so I guess you have not taken your own advise and read my post.
So, for the rest that did not understand like this challenged person and any others with an IQ less than the number of fingers on one hand, how many times would you like me to say it?
I have never had anything to do with X-1 or anyone associated with it. I have not contributed to it and have nothing but the one email when I blatantly asked what they were doing and I posted that reply. I did that in the hopes it would open a dialogue that could resolve this. Apparently many want a big confrontation and not resolution?

I must also ask those that modify UBIsoft copyright material to not place your mod in the position of you exclusive property. While I believe you deserve credit for your efforts, I do not believe you have created a unique product that demands compensation unless you understand that compensation would belong, legally to UBIsoft

As long as I can be called a troll for not joining something not unlike a Nazi minded mob mentality (you see the Nazis insisted you conform to their ways, which is exactly what this small minded person suggest) and I suggest the facts be presented in its entirety so we can all make a rational decision, than I have a right to defend myself from cowardly clique attacks.

BTW, Dunceman, I have spent three years and thousands of hours making thousand of files as freeware and have turned down joining a few payware projects in CFS3. Please enlighten all here on you contribution to any mod community.

T, the SH3 community would indeed be fine without X-1. It will not be fine with a negative suspicious attitude that does not encourage free exchange. I have before this suggested ways to prevent exactly this and was dismissed as if we have no such concerns here.
Turns out, that was not correct. But that is Monday morning quarterbacking, hey!

Wulfmann

Actually, KIWI, that is a great idea.

To channel all this hostility to something positive, how about a CD package that can be distributed as donation ware with the funds supporting the site cost for this and the U-Boat Realsim site? That would offer an installed package of all the favorite mods help the sites that support the community and prevent any unauthorized payware form being able to compete and have to offer what they produce or procure themselves.

If anyone can arrange these mods with a self installer and the price would reflect the actual operating cost of the product and the band width of the sites, there would be no actual profit.

That really is worth pursuing.
Is any one here willing to take some action that will advance your cause in a positive way or is everyone here still bent on a lynching?

Wulfmann

I'd just like to mention that calling people KKK or Nazi like does so little towards your end of the argument and just makes you look desperate enough to insult, same goes for everybody.

This "deathping" (OSSI?) fellow is making his rounds on the UBI forums, too. :nope: :nope: :x :x

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums...9021027043/p/2

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums...9931037933/p/3

My question: how many people in the community would buy such a CD?

Hawkers :up:

Now this was low... :hulk: :hulk: :hulk: :hulk: :hulk: :hulk:

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums...3/m/4161043143

[/quote]My question: how many people in the community would buy such a CD?Hawkers :up:[/quote]

That says it all, LOL All this complaining that someone is going to cash in on the efforts of the poor down trodden modders but when a suggestion to make the same thing comes up that is the reponse.? Classic!!!

Am I alone in seeing this as a bit funny but pathetic.

Gons, when pople act like a lunitic mob, noting it should not be the problem, it taking place should be.

Syxx, you are becoming paranoid!!! Lighten up Francis!!!

Wulfmann

Oh boy....would not wanna be in this guys shoes...Hell hath no furry like a womans scorn.

That crack to Avon Lady was below low. I take offense at that and will be there in a minute handen out a little woop ass

Wulfmann

Paranoid? Of what? http://www.countingcows.de/hmm.gif http://img62.exs.cx/img62/2879/silly30gn.gif

Btw, my name's not Francis. :rotfl:

I've seen some putrid posts before, but that one... Mr. deathping... gets the blue ribbon for being a true garbage dump in the middle of July... delete and publicly apologize immediately...

Cordialement, Duke of Earl

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums...143#3121053143

Note my response to that Nazi like attitude (I dare anyone to argue with that)

Syxx, just fooling with ya. Remember Stripes in the barracks and the crazy guy kept telling everyone, "If any of you Homos touch my stuff, I'll kill ya" and the sergeant said "Lighten up Francis" I always loved that line and use it as a joke.

Wulfmann

DO they really need a rascist bigot defending them...

I mean could things get any worse.

I checked and deathping is definately GERMAN and definately loves "X1" so it could be Ossi but I can't say for certain.

Yup, Wulfmann can't argue there..

:nope: Completely uncalled for.
Avon Lady deserves an apology! :stare:
Even if this guy isn't Ossi he is pulling the same childish tricks. Next thing you know deathping--- will start deleting his posts too.

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Although I have not taken part in the discussion up till now I have followed it with interest.
Things got a little bit spiced up when words like "thief" end "pirate" were exchanged for "KKK" and "Kristalnacht". I even read about boxcars going to Poland...
But Deathping really beats it. Not once, but again at the UBI-forum...
The only funny thing is that in his angerThe choice is rather simple: male or female.
The nickname "The Avon Lady" strongly suggests a choice for the latter.
:D
About the only (and no doubt unintended) funny element of Deathping's posting.
As for me I hope this first posting was his death ping on this site...

Abraham said "As for me I hope this first posting was his death ping on this site..."

As for me I would hope both sites.

Wulfmann

I found this new one, I think its quite fetching..

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7658/bgtop27ee.jpg

What is so wrong about a israeli flag??? I actually went to view it. staring at the flag for a good minute... Nope no anger whatsoever. Deathping am i missing something? :rock: