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MH 09-20-13 03:43 AM

It is too ridiculous be true.
The rifles should had failed some basic testing.
Is it possible that later batches are so defective?

Hard to believe....:doh:

Skybird 09-20-13 04:20 AM

It seems they HAVE failed testing even back then, but the negative findings mysteriously disappeared from the final recommendation report to the BW back then . That's why the state attorney examines for the suspicion of corruption and bribery.

The defence ministry has a long, well-established record of being poorly led and having many problems. The internal hierarchies and established bureaucracy isolates itself quite well from any new ministers.Also, there seems to be plenty of incompetence. The problems with the formal certification of the Eurohawk drone were known since YEARS. They just hoped it would solve itself, and so did nothing.

Schroeder 09-20-13 03:37 PM

As I said in previous posts, my first hand experience with the weapon even in the heat of summer (30°c) and several magazines fired are not negative at all.
I'm very surprised by that, especially considering the long experience that HK has with building rifles.:hmm2:

Skybird 06-22-14 10:00 AM

The German Federal Court of Auditors has fully stopped the aquisition of the G36 assault rifle, saying it would be irresponsible to spend 34 millions for a program that suffers from huge amounts of incompatible ammunition stockpiles in the Bundeswehr, too bad precision of the weapon, and serious temperature issues.

CaptainMattJ. 06-22-14 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2218484)
The German Federal Court of Auditors has fully stopped the aquisition of the G36 assault rifle, saying it would be irresponsible to spend 34 millions for a program that suffers from huge amounts of incompatible ammunition stockpiles in the Bundeswehr, too bad precision of the weapon, and serious temperature issues.

That's what ends up happening when designers forget the most basic rules of warfare: "keep it simple, stupid". It really is sound advice. Its why the AK-47 is the most iconic and widely used weapon ever, and also why the russian army never adopted "modern" rifles like the an-94 and instead still use the AK-74m as standard issue. Simplicity usually equates to reliability. The less things that can break, the less often the machine breaks, as a general rule of thumb.

The germans should have learned that lesson a long ago.

Stealhead 06-22-14 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ. (Post 2218620)
That's what ends up happening when designers forget the most basic rules of warfare: "keep it simple, stupid". It really is sound advice. Its why the AK-47 is the most iconic and widely used weapon ever, and also why the russian army never adopted "modern" rifles like the an-94 and instead still use the AK-74m as standard issue.

The Ak-47 is so widespread because the Soviets,numerous WARSAW pact nations and the Chinese produced them by the millions and gave them to any force who was fighting against western interests in many cases free of charge.

The primary reason that the AN-94 never entered mass production was because the Russian government at the time it was put into competition simply lacked the funding to procure them.There is also the fact that the AN-94 really does not offer a major improvement over the 74.

Same story for the M16 family nothing has yet come along that is enough of an improvement to warrant a change.Sure the M16 had a rocky start but many people ignore the fact that the aK47 had been in production for 10 years by the time it saw serious combat in Vietnam.

Hmong guerrillas in Loas are still using M16A1s produced during Vietnam but no one hears about that.Along with other weapons of course.Point being if you have to fight you will make what you have available to you work well enough.There is no "perfect" firearm they all will malfunction even AK47s even if kept in perfect condition.This is why combatants are or should be trained how to clear there weapon and identify what is causing the malfunction.

the guy in the North Hollywood shoot out the one with the Romanian AK47 with the 75 round drum magazines his stovepiped and he tossed it away because he did not know how to clear it luckily for the LAPD.

http://www.ourecho.com/users/230/1059/2.jpg

PS the Hmong are not Communists their enemy is.

Oberon 06-22-14 11:59 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...enry_Mk_IV.jpg

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