No, it is you who does not get it.You seem to give them a pass on every subject.I am not spouting crazy conspiracy nonsense, I showed you a video of him saying exactly what he wanted this force to be.I pointed out that in the past, they have been a service of doctors, nurses, engineers etc with authorized strength of 2,800.I am just going off of what Obama said he wants them to be, except now they have an authorized strength of 6,000 right now, could grow next time it is snuck into a bill.I could be wrong but doubt it, regardless this should concern everyone in America.

Watch this AGAIN and see if it gets through:damn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yG...eature=related

Can not help but laugh at all the sheep clapping as he talks, funny yet disgusting.:har::damn:

At least my Tin Foil stock is going up. :yeah:

You have an interesting perspective on events, I do have to admit.

Thanks for sharing.

lol@ the tin foil comment, does not bother me but funny because I have used that to refer to people in the past.I am not a anti-government nut, a conspiracy theorist etc regardless of what certain people may say.I do believe in the constitution which means limited federal power and intervention.Since the plague of liberalism struck America a while back, there have been more assaults upon the constitution than ever before and they continue today. I do believe in moral clarity, there is good and evil in this world.Not going on the religious perspective here, because I am an atheist.However, with all the "evil in the world, it is apparent some people as they say in the south "just ain't right" I believe Obama thinks he is doing what is right because his entire life he was indoctrinated in marxism etc, combine that with his race and class issues(made very apparent in his book Dreams of my Father, authored before he was in politics, perhaps a product of the marxism he got from his mother, frank marshall davis etc), this has led us to what we have now.Those who believe they are doing the right thing and go to extremes such as he seems to be doing, are those who create the most hellish tyrannies.

Many in America have a certain degree of naivete when it comes to this because it has never happened in American yet or even really attempted and we seem secure, this has lead to a lack of vigilance and it seems we have the first real threat to America as we know it.I could be wrong but I doubt it, I honestly hope I am but it's going on right in front of us everyday, many seem to have awoken but some are still in denial.Only way to stop it is to vote him out and vote out the dem majority in the congress.Call me an optimist but really believe if we do this, things will improve.The GOP has learned from the election of Obama and the Dems and will not make mistakes of the past.Again, I could be wrong but I hope not.

I simply do not have time at moment to type out another long response so will do it later when i return from night out or tomorrow when i have a chance but do have a response.

This video with the judge spells it out pretty well for now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcgewO2l73g

At 1:00, the judge says "they can work in the Public Health Service", refering to the doctors added to the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps. So, the doctors added to the Public Health Service could work in the Public Health Service? Interesting logic there...

He goes on to say "...they will train with the military... have the powers of the military..." He neglects to mention that they are already doing so.

So they already work and train with the military. They are a corps of comissioned officers in one of the uniformed services. So, nope, it's no surprise they operate similarly to the military.

At 3:45, he refers to Obama calling for a "domestic military" during the campaign. Was this perhaps the 21 second video you keep pointing us to? And can anybody link that quote to the USPHS Commissioned Corps?

I also caught at least a couple of times where he's confusing the issue of the Commissioned Corps with presidential authority over the National Guard.

So, I still don't see how this expansion of an already existing uniformed service is in any way the creation of Obama's private army. By the way, is 6,000 doctors, dentists, nurses, psychologists, and veterinarians going to be enough for Obama to win his revolution against the regular military and citizens that will oppose him?

Let's look at some of the evil, nefarious deeds of this "private army", shall we?
Foul demon bastards of pure evil, indeed.
Will they stop at nothing?!? I bet they're involved in plans for fluoridation of water, too! We can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

Yes:rotfl2:
Ah the CAPS LOCK, are you having a Kaczynski moment?

A quick question for ya bubble.
When you had that little discussion over dinner with your people from work, in which manner were they in agreement?
Were they saying "yes" as in ....wow that new kids amazing, only just out of school and already exposing nefarious plans of diabolical stature right at the heart of the government of the worlds superpower?
Or were they saying "yes" in the way they would when they unexpectedly meet a person who wants representation as he has just escaped from the captivity of the Amish Occupied Government who kidnapped him in a secret black horse drawn stealth helicopter because he was just about to expose their evil plot with the foriegn Canadians to build a maple syrup pipeline through the heart of small town USA?

Tribesman, there you go again.No not having a "Kaczynski" moment, I am sure you are closer to that mindset than I am.

Oh dinner, well naturally the two actual Liberals were prob the most skeptical but they are blind like obama and most of his supporters, but they did agree that no President needs a force as described.The mods and conservatives seemed to sincerely agree.Free and open discussion should be had without mockery because of disagreement.You constantly mock because you have no legitimate way to counter what I have said, so you result as most Liberals do to insults and mockery.Some things out there are just nutty but points I have raised are not.I base my arguments on things such as obama's willingness to circumvent the constitution, ignore a large percentage of the population's objections to health control, his past and current involvement with socialists, communists, his racist thoughts in his book Dreams of my Fathers, which he authored before he ever had a chance of being President, his constant lies, broken promises such as transparency etc Something like forming some type of a "civillian national security force" out of the already existing USPHSCC is not far fetched because it is a way to get what he wants without raising too much alarm.Lets say a new force was created on it's own without vague language in bill in lieu of the expansion of an already existing force that can be used solely at his descretion, there would be much more of an outcry, even from the Left.Obama for all his faults is not stupid, not as smart as he is made out to be but definitely not stupid.I and many others out there base this on his behavior and ideology as well as the action of increasing this force to 6000, what will it increase to next time, 10,000?
This increase in the force should be greatly scrutinized due to obama's past comments about what he wants and no President should go without scrutiny esp obama, due to his sketchy past as well as current attitude and behavior.Again, I hope I am wrong about this one.

Bubblehead, look on the bright side, if you are right, then the next Republican President would also have this private army. :D

I explain in my response to tribesman, perhaps the increase the size and plans to change the role of the USPHSCC? Anyone should find his comment from that video distrubing.Just because the service has been used for good in the past does not mean, esp with the new officers they will recruit that it's purpose will be something so innocent in the times aheads.I have not been able to find where he said that but I remember seeing it during the campaign and was disturbed by it then.I had heard nothing else about it, figured maybe he gave up on it, then when I heard it was in the bill and did some research, questions began to mount.Now I could be wrong but it's wrong to just give him a free pass like so many did during the campaign and a few even continue to do now.

I believe what the Judge meant when he said they will have the powers of the military, this will be due to training and equipment and no doubt some executive order will ensure they will likely be armed while serving inside the US and could be used as an enforcement arm someday, esp if the numbers are increased beyond 6000, perhaps they could be used to enforce the unpopular mandates in health care, along with the IRS. Ever hear of posse comitatus? This would prevent him from using the actual military, thus why he specified what he wanted in the video. These are questions that should be raised.I have stated I could be wrong and hope that I am but given how he is, doubt I am.I suppose we shall see.

No President should have this private army.Obama just seems to have more potential to use this for what he sees as good but is in reality, not a good thing.Slippery Slope, the constitution and laws such as posse comitatus are there for a reason, but he just thinks they are things to circumvent to meet his agenda.

Short version: "Perhaps, speculation, could be, if, speculation, I don't like him, therefore I oppose him."

That's basically what I'm getting from your response. I see no evidence that Obama intends to create a force (or alter an existing force), to operate as his "private army". I only see speculation.

Speculation based on his own words, actions, history, ideology and now this provision slipped into the HC bill.I am currently working on trying to find out who slipped it in there.Wondering which traitor it was.Again, this is a subject worth discussing.What bothers me is those who do like him just blindly follow him.I never blindly follow a President, regardless of party etc, just crazy to blindly follow anyone or anything.Just glad we have elections this year that will most likely stop his agenda and 2012 can tell him to go kick rocks.

You still haven't shown any evidence that this expansion of the Commissioned Corps is anything evil. Why exactly is it treason, again?
That doesn't sound very much like "Let's add medical professionals to help during emergencies" to me.

USA's government grows bigger and bigger, while those forced to fund it grow poorer and poorer.

You were countered straight away.
All you are able to do is repeat your crazy conspiracy about nazi dentists and say "look at what he said".
It was clear from the outset that once you looked at what he was talking about in relation to what he said that your "concerns" on that particular issue were rather insane.
Since all you are able to do is repeat your "look at what he said" line about the evil conspiracy of gestapo therapists then the legitimate counter has no more role to play as it has done its job fully already, which means it time for mockery of what is obviously no more than a conspiracy theory of the more nutty variety.
By the end of page 1 you should have realised that your theory seemed full of holes , by the end of page 2 you should have realised it was shot to pieces, by the end of page 3 you should have realised there was nothing left of your theory anymore.....yet here we are with you persisting that people need to look at what he said.

I don't know how to break it to ya bubble, but it is because people have actually looked at what he said that has exposed your conspiracy theory for what it is.

Leftists socialist liberals conspiracies and evil governments taking away freedoms with sneaky hidden legislation......Are you sure you didn't co author the manifesto of that nutty terrorist?:rotfl2: