I am leaving it's true but i can't go without a BANG ;) :p :rotfl:

Now back to do some packing :cry:

You have a point there, but we do not control the "fans" as you call them, we only are responsible here for the mod we make and our comments, don't be confused, not everyone with a GWX pic on the signature are team members.
1. GWX team don't assume is the only capable of fixing things, proof of that is that we asked other modders premission to use their work in our mod in our mod.
2. Why do you think that? there's a lot of excellent work made by sh4 modders, but as we're going to focus in the Atlantic theatre there's little we can use except for environmental mods.
3. Again when do we (GWX team) show disrespect for SH4 modders (in general, there are a couple for which I don't have the slightest respect at all, but that's a personal matter), please be concrete and post some links to GWX team members started posts diminishing SH4 modders.

@Skjwaster, I now that it's a bit boring and redundant, but as we are here to stay, whoever likes it or not, I think it's better to release all our angers and dislikes in one single thread an then let it all behind.

Ref

Don't forget your hat http://imgcash3.imageshack.us/img412...uplargeon1.gif

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It's always a pleasure to interract with reasonable and rational folk here http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img91/817/ideaps5.gif

Just a little word if I may......keep a watchful eye out http://imgcash6.imageshack.us/img144...s0153fqgl6.gif and I reckon you'll soon come to the conclusion that the GWX Team only respond when provoked. I'm sure that is a right all of our American cousins hold most dear in their democracy.

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The rums mine


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We should concentrate on our motivation to create a great submarine simulation.We all should work together so that we can enjoy our hobby. I cannot understand why people are "flaming" each other. There is no advantage in "flaming" just the loss of time. And time is what we need to finish our work.

Why do we mod? First of all we would like to have changes in the actual submarine simulation. Mostly this changes are based on individual desires or the supposition that some details of the sim could be different maybe better.

More over we want to share our work with the community where we think that these changes finds support.

The result is that the intention of the modders and community are one and the same: To enjoy a great subsim!

So lets back get to work..

Our boats are waiting in the drydock..;)

See you at or below the sea!

Your CaptainNemo

PS: Sorry for my bad english . .

The way this thread is going it will probably be needed ;) :up:

Nothing wrong with your English CaptainNemo
A lot better than my German

Yes
Lets crack on
I have a mission to take photos of Scapa and Bdu waits for no man

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I'm a fan of both SH3 & SH4. I'm not playing SH3 right now because I just bought 4 and I don't have the time to get 3 running on VISTA at the moment. When i do get back to 3, I'm sure GWX will be the first mod I download.

My perspective is one of somebody who doesn't mod at all, but attitude has always been that for some reason or another these people (modders) have an interesting in taking ridiculous amounts of to make SH better and they do it only in exchange for a "thanks" and sometimes less than that. Furthremore, they even offer support for their mods, countenancing peoples complaints about how their gratis improvement of the game isn't working or "should" be better.

I have nothing but humilty and respect towards modders. I do have be preferences; I don't play the things I don't care for and I keep my mouth shut. Perhaps I'd feel differently if I also modded, but at the risk of sounding like a hippie, "can't we all just get along?"

Please, I suggest nobody do that. If what we see here from ref, Carotio, Bigboywooly, melnibolian, jimbuna and the rest of the swarm here represents the true position of GWX, future cooperation is not impossible. I am speaking from a position of not knowing (or caring) whether these examples exist. But especially if they do, we need to build up, not tear down.

But then I have a very thick skin. Some are not blessed with that and we may have to ignore some renegades from both camps. Smoke peace* pipe?

*Peace, for the purposes of this post, is defined as an atmosphere of mutual good will which seeks to minimize differences of opinion and modes of operation while competing in a cooperative way to make the capabilities of both groups the best they can be. Most people tolerate this well. However a few will encounter side effects such as upset stomach, headaches, nausea, trembling, convulsions, heart attack and death, just like a sugar pill. If you encounter any of these symptoms, please discontinue peace and consult Onkel Neal.

So you did get the order from Bdu and not ComSubPac anymore? :lol:

I don't understand!
 

I am sure some of you will say this is some old man who resist change. Well it is not the case at all.
I bought SH4 spent quite a bit of my money to upgrade my system so I could run it. It is a great sim and I enjoy it very much. I was and remain a big fan of SHCE/SH1. I always hoped there with be a new or even a replacement for SH!. What I did not buy was another U-Boat sim, but apparently any improvements to SH4 will only be in the form of German Boats and missions. Why can't there be improvements to the original SH4, and yes I have patch 1.4. There are already 3 U-Boat sims. I must be out of step wanting to play U.S. Submarines.
This is a very big disappointment to me. I entered the Navy in 1958 an served on Nuclear Subs for many years, I was influenced by the Co's and Chiefs that had served in the boats in WWII, they were OUR inspiration and OUR model, we wanted to be as good as they were. I believe we took this example with us as we fought the "Cold War", and no we did not sink enemy ships we gathered a hell of a lot of intelligence that made a difference. People say we won the Cold War and now we are on the eve of another one with China, I hope the present day "Brothers Of the Dolphins" take us as there role model and have the same success as we did.
Please let's show some fair play and work on improvement's for SH4. I am not attacking U-Boat sims, I just want to play my country's subs.

Thanks,

Ron Banks MMCM(SS), USN(Ret)

Worry not, Sub Sailor, the Pacfiic and Fleet Boats aren't going anywhere. Patch 1.5 has a lot to offer besides just U-Boats. Not hearing "all stop" on resuming a saved game is just one of them.

I happen to love playing with U-Boats. My first love will always be the Fleet Boats, but the whole U-Boat story is fascinating. Don't confuse an understandable lot of enthusiasm by U-Boat fans for what is new for a lack of commitment by those who love the American subs. We will just have one sim serving both. And that is good.

If you haven't spent the $10 for the upgrade (more in Europe) you're missing a great upgrade for fleet boats. And you might be surprised by the U-Boat and Operation Monsun! It will make you appreciate your fleet boat, that's for sure! And I think it is a lot of fun.

I totally agree with you and I totally understand you. If you like playing the US subs then I suggest you try the Trigger Maru Mod. It is very very good and gives a totally new experience to the game. :up:

For more information check out this thread http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=119504

As much as I understand you, subsailor, you have to see that a lot of people here wanting this U boat sim are not actual US citizens. I assume it must appear to you that most ppl here speaking up for an Atlantic mod are americans having forgotten the great pride and legacy the US navy passed on to the americans of today and instead vote in favor of the historical forces of evil for a plain coolness factor. Rest assured, there are enough members here, both from the US and international, sharing your exact sentiments, amongst them very very capable modders doing their best for the Pacific. The Pacific won't lose anything in SHIV, it just gets acompanied by it's Atlantic brother.
The rest of us, ppl from all over the world just the same, simply have more interest in the Atlantic. That may be for patriotic reasons, for a more familiar setting, for beeing from countries actually having been involved in the european war, for more of a challenge especially later in the war, for purely atmospheric reasons or indeed for the "coolness" factor. It has nothing to do with disliking the Pacific in general. It's just a preference.

I certainly hope the modders in SH4 do continue their excellent work.....I spent some of my hard earned dosh on it as well.

I like having the best of both worlds.....don't we all http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4...kbigid2zj6.gif