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ikalugin 10-21-14 05:49 AM

Would be nice if you could specify the vessel class and geographical location, as quick google doesn't tell me much :(

daft 10-21-14 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin (Post 2253841)
Would be nice if you could specify the vessel class and geographical location, as quick google doesn't tell me much :(

Here is Ingarö:

https://www.google.se/maps/place/Ing...00fef43420dc20

The pin shows the island itself, not really sure exactly where in the fjord they are looking though.

I think it was the minesweeper M74. HMS Stockholm (corvette) is also nearby I think.

daft 10-21-14 05:55 AM

I'm stupid. M74 IS Hms Kullen. My bad.

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Kullen_(M74)

ikalugin 10-21-14 05:57 AM

So Landsort class? Looks like, well a mine sweeper, so not very good against subs.

Thanks for the links :)

daft 10-21-14 06:01 AM

Something has happened. At first they wanted to scale back, but now they ramped up instead.

daft 10-21-14 06:22 AM

New claims in the media. A Swedish vessel collided with a transmitter, allegedly Russian, last week. This incident started the whole chase. Last week reports were claiming that a navy boat (a Stridsbåt 90) collided with a light buoy. This could have been the incident refered to above.

daft 10-21-14 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin (Post 2253845)
So Landsort class? Looks like, well a mine sweeper, so not very good against subs.

Thanks for the links :)

I think Kullen is now a Koster class. Koster class is the mid life upgrades the Landsort class ships got.

Jimbuna 10-21-14 07:56 AM

Anything more recent than this 6 hours old article?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...m-9805097.html

Safe-Keeper 10-21-14 09:17 AM

Interesting development. I'm glad they've apparently found something physical, some evidence that they are indeed hunting something.

daft 10-21-14 09:20 AM

Divers have been photographed going into the water somewhere in the archipelago. No specifics as to where. Apparently the government wanted to scale back the ops, but something happened and the Navy is still searching. Ground troops scout islands and shores. The unconfirmed tip to the media about a boat colliding with a radio transmitter of some sort has been denied by the Defence Forces. They say they only know about a collision with a light bouy (spelling?).

daft 10-21-14 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper (Post 2253923)
Interesting development. I'm glad they've apparently found something physical, some evidence that they are indeed hunting something.

My guess is they have had several contacts but have great difficulties pinning it down and finding out exactly what it is. These waters are really bad in terms of ASW ops. Lots of places to hide for a small submarine or submersible. I think something is really there (or was ar least) but they won't find it.

ikalugin 10-21-14 09:48 AM

If it is a non nuclear sub it will have to go to PD soon.

Safe-Keeper 10-21-14 09:52 AM

(The correct spelling is buoy, if you are curious :p )

Jimbuna 10-21-14 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin (Post 2253929)
If it is a non nuclear sub it will have to go to PD soon.

There is speculation in the UK that it may be a Kilo Class which is reckoned to be able to stay submerged for 10/11 days.

ikalugin 10-21-14 10:02 AM

Well there are only 2 Kilos in the Baltic fleet, I think that competent people would have counted the ones away from the base (Kronshtat isn't that big a place).

And Kilos only have 140 hours or so at 3 knots, so 10-11 days is sort of pushing it.

RB Baltic Fleet B806:
http://militaryrussia.ru/i/284/211/nF1Sf.jpg

daft 10-21-14 12:42 PM

I think it's a smaller than a Kilo. Some sort of mini submersible. It seems to be a vehicle that relatively easily can hide in cracks and crevices, and going by the numerous sightings it seems to have come to or near the surface to recharge or replenish oxygen a couple of times at least. Two new observations were made today apparently. Not sure what that means in terms of what they've seen. Lights and swells on the surface are two things I saw mentioned, but not sure how accurate that is.

daft 10-21-14 12:53 PM

Haha, fantastic. Those poor guys on NS Concord got a call from as Swedish reporter, and it was quite apparent that they were rather sick of having to deal with Swedish paranoia. They were drifting waiting for instructions from their company, so on one side they had their management sending them to sea to drift for weeks waiting for cargo, on the other paranoid Swedish reporters calling them, and most probably they've been overflown a few times by Swedish recon flights. My bet is that we also have a sub watching them. I hope they are paid well for all their troubles. :D

mapuc 10-21-14 01:18 PM

And now some kind of propaganda war is going on between Russia and Sweden.

Russian news paper are mocking the Swedes a.s.o

Markus

daft 10-21-14 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2254002)
And now some kind of propaganda war is going on between Russia and Sweden.

Russian news paper are mocking the Swedes a.s.o

Markus

They must think we are nuts. :)

mapuc 10-21-14 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by daft (Post 2254004)
They must think we are nuts. :)

Maybe they do

Yesterday when I watch Aktuellt on SVT2 I was shocked

We haven't any of our HK4 left in our ASW-hunting group.(some of them are at museum)

They are or was our best weapon against submarines who are violating our borders.

Markus


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