*marks tank for Bombardment by Hind*

:smug:

*Fixes shovel and goes after ASW*

Don't push it. Let it go...:rotfl::rotfl::up: (Rambo 1)

:hmm: I dont hate america, but I dont like the governement of today

and about that private airplane over NY...Now ''He's American'' ''small plane''
dont forget what can be packed inside the SMALL plane. enough to create severe damage to an high building.

If they would allow small private planes fly over NY, and some terrorist groups find a way to do the same thing without too much trouble. Hey you got urself an second 9/11 not as bad as the original one...but enough to shake the world into a second terror.

Planes over NY = NO! if ur learned from 9/11 planes must go around and now where near the city at all. but yeah...can u save NY from Terrorist attacks...No not really.there are many ways for terrorist to sneak inside any city in any country to create havoc.


now back to iraq:

The soldiers had to be gone long time ago, if they try to prevent an civil war , forget it, if the soldiers are still there or not...Hell wil brake lose and the american soldiers dont know the bloody reason to stay.

Let iraq be in an state of civil war...after 20 yrs the country will regain his strenght and then we look again of how things are going on.

the longer the american stays in their...the more u piss iraqies off.
get out. bring the soldiers home back to their families

It just doesn't make sense not to agree with our ideals. The political ideals of the U.S.A. are quite simple. We are a democracy, which is a government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.

So you don't like the fact that we attempt to get everybody else in that same situation? Why wouldn't you? Most of you here in this forum live in countries that have a democratic society. The U.S.A. is the most successful and therefore most powerful. I say, instead of fighting it, you should join it. And then you won't have to complain that you can't do everything that we can. :know:

I'm the first? Really? I guess it goes to show you just how far off the mark European media can be when it comes to the US. Perhaps you should remember this next time you try to claim expertise of American words and actions....

All that has nothing to do with what you claimed (incorrectly) that he said.

And so what if Bush rode in a military aircraft? He is a former fighter pilot after all. If I were president i'd wrangle a ride like that too. CiC does and should have some perks. Heck Teddy Roosevelt once took a ride in a submarine, submerged too, while they were still experimental, and he was only a former assistant secretary of the Navy (and Spanish-American war hero).

Besides, anyone who has made one can tell you that a tail hook landing on a carrier is anything but lacking in personal risk.

The bottom line here is you have way over stretched in your latest attack on our President. You should do the right thing and admit it, better yet stop acting like Mr. Know-it-all all the time.

I understood it that way too, I thought it was pretty evident, the mission accomplished meant the US had staged, moved in, and took control of Iraq. They still have control of Iraq. There is violnce and killing going on there but no serious military opposition.

Fred you have to understand that most of these Europeans cannot even concieve of such things. Their entire history is filled with despotic kings and dictators who ruled their subjects by the sword.

We are alien to them and they will never understand us. Worse we understand them all too well and that infuriates them to no end.

It's interesting that you should make that claim Brad because the way i see it the problem with the Democrats for the past 8 years is they have run on a platform devoid of ideas and have limited themselves to "vote for us because we're better than the Republicans"

Anyone who knows anything of American political history knows that neither party has a lock on morality, expertise or competance so such claims are always rejected as the voting record shows.

I do really hope the Democrats stop this ridiculous and useless "pot/kettle" comparisons and start coming out with more concrete ideas and plans on how to move the country forward.

My dad says the same about Left Wing ideas. This is strange. :D

Again, the same could be said about the Communistic idea. And i not mean russia, but the theory.

Except about the "free electoral system" wich is a farce to begin with, since the dumb majority wich can easily be manipulated controles the country.

If i take my most fafored land, Sweden and compare it to america then no, i don't want it to get another america with all the Crazy and nuts things from there.

Me too. But as i already have written, there is much difference between "Americanny Democracy" and "European Democracy". And i don't like the american version.

How did you archive this power? Yes, with slave work, wich you still have today. The difference is that you pay them enougt not to die istand of feeding them at work. Not to forget different tricks and unfair trades wich you still have today.

Your philisophy is "Buy it or Bomb it!". Can't buy it cause people resist? Then Bomb it.

That made you the richest country in the world.

Many people say different.

Wich Complains? I can do everything i want over here.

Independents aren't really a party, it's individuals. Power is in numbers.
However I am voting for an Independent for senate (Lieberman) and (gasp) a Republican for govenor who's in office now. She was lt. govenor then replaced the Republican govenor who went to prison for corruption.

I like Joe as well and think the Democrats really shot themselves in the foot by giving the nomination to that cable mogul.

We are just blinded by your shining armour, that's all...

You seem to think all reality is exactly like your ancestors have written down rules on pieces of paper, and because they show up to be like this and that in that text, realility would be like that. You believe too easy, and are determined not to see the many distortions, aberations and violations that have taken place since then. By paper-form, the US looks wonderful. By judging it how it once has been meant to be (in a different world, under different situational conditions) it is great. But today is 2006, globalised trade, megalomania, imperial structures, strong plutocratic elites. the simple fact that Iraq war 2003 took place illustrated how badly damaged your system already is, and how damaged your rules and institutions already are. Hollowing out, this phrase is always on my mind when thinking about the US and the EU.

and on that theatralic carrier thing again, AL's hinting to the Wikipedia really sums it up nicely:
AL,
I misunderstood a whole paragraph after first reading it, now realise what it really says. Thus, I correct my former acceptance of your correction and reject to take your point as stated before! http://www.langkawi.dk/smileys/b330.gif

Well I'm glad you can do what you want over there, Noob. In the mean time my country will continue to thrive and millions of people from all over this planet continue to move here so they can be an american like me. :ping: :ping: :ping: :ping: :ping: :ping: :ping:

Remember: Americans are Europeans too. From where do you think you Come from? You people not appeared out of nothing.

Yes. And you think you escaped your history just by moving in another part of the planet? I hope not, this would be very foolish.

Snap thought "Republican"
1st thought :- Made a total balls up with Iraq.
2nd thought :- Do nothing congress.
3rd thought :- Doesn't do nothing unless it involves money making more money.
4th thought :- So damned arrogant it disgusting. So arrogant they are blinded to reality.
5th thought :- Their way or no way.

Those five snap thoughts go through my mind when I think Republican.
I think thoughts 1 through 3 are going through a lot of voters minds.
Notice that I didn't note one Democrat thought. Why?
Because this present system teach's how not to do something. Therefore things will "change" and be "different".

There are quite a few Americans that feel the same way.

Well, let me try to explain to you what it means to live in America.

General aviation is part of our country. [Airlines are commercial aviation, different issue] It's something that many Americans enjoy. We do it as sport, hobby, convienence and competition. It's part of our way of life.

Just because some fanatics attacked our country using airplanes, it doesn't mean we are going to stop flying. It doesn't mean that we are going to close down airspace around cities where small planes fly. It means we will take more precautions and possibly stronger regulations to prevent a repeat occurance.
Some things have changed. Life may be a little more difficult. Regulations are enforced and security is tighter.

However, there is no way in hell we will ever give up our way of life or any freedom in our country because of the actions of some terrorist. To do that, to live our lives in fear, to take away any portion of our way of life, is surrenduring to the terroist in defeat.