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Marko 06-07-06 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U-Bones
Hollywood does a horrible job of representing the truth, much less Americans and their actual values and positions. As an American citizen who has proudly served my country, I can say they do NOT speak for me on anything of importance.

I really wonder who really representing the truth nowdays.

EkimRis 06-07-06 10:42 AM

I was watching U 571 on TV when I read this :rotfl:

FAdmiral 06-07-06 04:30 PM

Aside from all the other things mentioned here, my main question right
after I saw the movie for the first time is:
HOW did the milk cow boat identify the sub it saw in the periscope
in the driving rain as American when it fooled the Germans in U-571
only yards away on the surface???

End of story
JIM

Rose 06-07-06 04:39 PM

Maybe they intercepted a radio report.... or something...

VoodooPriest 06-07-06 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joea
Heck most Japanese pilots removed the radios to save weight and space.

Not only that, many of them even flew without their parachutes... :o

FAdmiral 06-07-06 04:51 PM

NOPE, radio silence was key to American success.....
It would have given them away immediately

JIM

Subnuts 06-07-06 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAdmiral
NOPE, radio silence was key to American success.....
It would have given them away immediately

JIM

The German supply boat had just blown up an oil tanker with one of it's atomic torpedoes, which tore open a rift in time and space, launching them into the Year 2000, where the captain read the script. The U-boat then blew up another ship with it's atomic torpedoes, and was hurled back in time to 1942.

FAdmiral 06-07-06 08:14 PM

Don't stop with that storyline now, it would make a good sequel.


JIM

Rose 06-07-06 09:11 PM

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: I love these forums :smug:.

bookworm_020 06-07-06 10:00 PM

The copy of U-571 that I own (don't worry it's a cheap thai knock off) has an extra which one of the men who retrieved the enigma machine and code books from the U-110 tells the story behind the capture.

I also read the US need to capture their own engima machine as the British wouldn't give them the details, despite the US giving them the details of the Japanese codes. Winston Churchill didn't think they would be able to keep it secure. He was right in doing so. The Germans had cracked the american radio codes and had used the information to help Rommel in North Africa.

This is why the US went after the U-505. This is also listed in the credits of the movie, along with the three previous British captures.

For the record, I think the moive is light weight fluff and doesn't do justice to anyone on either side. Das Boot on the otherhand, is far more engaging:up:

Darth Brooks 06-07-06 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAdmiral
Aside from all the other things mentioned here, my main question right
after I saw the movie for the first time is:
HOW did the milk cow boat identify the sub it saw in the periscope
in the driving rain as American when it fooled the Germans in U-571
only yards away on the surface???

End of story
JIM

Good Question. I assumed that they guessed there was one too many subs. But who was german and who wasn't would have been a tough read through the periscope. Maybe they just fired at the ship with the guys holding guns.

Ducimus 06-07-06 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAdmiral
Aside from all the other things mentioned here, my main question right
after I saw the movie for the first time is:
HOW did the milk cow boat identify the sub it saw in the periscope
in the driving rain as American when it fooled the Germans in U-571
only yards away on the surface???

End of story
JIM

I thought about that, and the only explanation i could logically think of (assuming they could see through the periscope at all), is the US navy uniforms being worn by deck personnel. Not to mention that Black men weren't in the Kreigsmarine. (in reference to the stewert marking the german prisoners with chaulk.)

But still.... how did they see all that, at what was probably at least 1500-2000 meters away, at night, in a driving rain, through a periscope?

One thing that i kept thinking of, was the depth gauge was wrong.

The Noob 06-08-06 05:51 AM

They seen the Firefight between the Crew of U-571 and the Americans, and manuvered into position to Fire. This took some time. Then they blew up the American Boat.

Damn Easy!:D

The Noob 06-08-06 06:24 AM

Now this is Already at the Subsim Start Page...:down::nope:

I can't get why anyone Hates U-571.:shifty:
It'a MOVIE Goddamnit! Not a Documenation or Such.

Puster Bill 06-08-06 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020
I also read the US need to capture their own engima machine as the British wouldn't give them the details, despite the US giving them the details of the Japanese codes. Winston Churchill didn't think they would be able to keep it secure. He was right in doing so. The Germans had cracked the american radio codes and had used the information to help Rommel in North Africa.

Kind of true, at the beginning of the war, and totally false by 1943 or so. In fact, the US built better and faster bombes for cracking Enigma than the British did, and the American servicemen who ran the bombes (both CANTAB and American ones) took pride that they could turn around the settings much faster than the British ladies (The British, due to a manpower shortage, used women to run their bombes).

Certainly, by the time the US captured U-505 (and it's Enigma machine) in 1944 the US and UK had an extremely close SIGINT relationship.

By the way, that relationship continues to this very day.

/ex-dittybopper


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