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August 05-31-11 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1674519)
I suspect...eventually 'NO' but what worries me is who will eventually take over the role.

China?


I dunno Jim. I have difficulty imagining China being either willing or even able to take over the role of European peacekeeper.

Heck our shared ancestry aside I don't think even we could have performed that role if it weren't for our massive cold war troop presence in Europe and the various effects it had on the host countries.

Onkel Neal 05-31-11 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 1674657)
I can hardly see a connection that us being the world police has kept us from engaging in another world war, nor do I see the dynamics of it.


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How many times over the last 500 years has there been 60 years of peace between the Germans, French, British, Dutch, Spanish, Russians, Italians, Turks....?

nikimcbee 05-31-11 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1674704)
How many times over the last 500 years has there been 60 years of peace between the Germans, French, British, Dutch, Spanish, Russians, Italians, Turks....?

So out of those countries, which one do you see causing trouble first?

I see Serbia causing some sort of fuss, maybe Russia~Georgia. The Germans have been neutered.

Onkel Neal 05-31-11 09:20 PM

They said the same thing in 1919 :)

August 05-31-11 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1674711)
So out of those countries, which one do you see causing trouble first?

I'd say that would be extremely difficult to calculate as it's not only the protagonists you have to look at but also the machinations of the others.

Jimbuna 06-01-11 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1674672)
I dunno Jim. I have difficulty imagining China being either willing or even able to take over the role of European peacekeeper.

Heck our shared ancestry aside I don't think even we could have performed that role if it weren't for our massive cold war troop presence in Europe and the various effects it had on the host countries.

I think your right because I doubt Europe would or could embrace China...too big a cultural change.

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1674704)
How many times over the last 500 years has there been 60 years of peace between the Germans, French, British, Dutch, Spanish, Russians, Italians, Turks....?

If I had to guess, I'd go for Turkey because of the fundamentalist/religious undercurrent in that country.

Betonov 06-01-11 08:00 AM

Don't worry, if Europeans want to start thrasing eachothers heads again, even the US can't stop us


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