| Skybird |
07-12-10 03:03 AM |
^^ x3.
" He who fights that Islam shall be superior fights in Allah's cause." - Muhammad.
" If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell the people what they do not want to hear. " George Orwell
" When the Quran says Fighting is ordained for you, even if you don’t like it, the message is clear. This is God speaking. That is what you have accepted a priori. So how can you dispute with God? Once you accept the Quran as the word of God you cannot pick and choose and discard what you don’t like. This is strictly prohibited." - Ali Hirsi on "The illusion to reform Islam":
http://www.islam-watch.org/AliSina/I...ming-Islam.htm
Quote:
Dr. Ingrid Mattson, the woman who was invited by Barak Hussein Obama to represent Muslims in the interfaith prayer of the Democrats Presidential convention, and who is the president of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), when asked whether Wahhabism is an extreme right wing sect of Islam, responded:
No it’s not true to characterize ‘Wahhabism’ that way. This is not a sect. It is the name of a reform movement that began 200 years ago to rid Islamic societies of cultural practices and rigid interpretation that had acquired over the centuries. It really was analogous to the European protestant reformation
(...)
What is the essence of the reformation in Islam? The essence of the Wahhabi belief is that man is not free but a slave of Allah. People are Ibad (slaves).
This is diametrically different discourse from the discourse of Protestantism and here is the essential difference between Christianity and Islam.
On the surface, there are many similarities between Christianity and Islam. Both believe in a God, both rely on an intermediary between man and God, both faiths are eschatological and have a hell, a heaven and an afterlife, etc. However, in their core they are very different, in fact opposite to one another. Islam is not a continuation of Christianity, as Muhammad and Muhammadans claim, but it is an anti Christian belief in its essence. These faiths are different. One advocates freedom of man and the other his slavery. One brings the message of liberation the other, of submission.
The discourse of freedom, so essential to Christianity is contrary what Islam stands for. When you see Muslims carry placards that read “democracy is hypocrisy,” and “freedom go to hell,” during their laud demonstrations, they are expressing the true essence of Islam, which is anti freedom, anti democracy, pro slavery and pro subjugation.
True Muslims should not be free to choose, but they should emulate Muhammad. The Quran 33:36 says: وَمَا كَانَ لِمُؤْمِنٍ وَلَا مُؤْمِنَةٍ إِذَا قَضَى اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ أَمْرًا أَن يَكُونَ لَهُمُ الْخِيَرَةُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِمْ وَمَن يَعْصِ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ فَقَدْ ضَلَّ ضَلَالًا مُّبِينًا
“And it behoves not a believing man and a believing woman that they should have any choice in their matter when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter; and whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he surely strays off a manifest straying.”
It is not up to Muslims to decide what is good for them. This decision is already made for them and all they have to do is to obey, even when they don’t like it. كُتِبَ عَلَيْكُمُ الْقِتَالُ وَهُوَ كُرْهٌ لَّكُمْ وَعَسَى أَن تَكْرَهُواْ شَيْئًا وَهُوَ خَيْرٌ لَّكُمْ وَعَسَى أَن تُحِبُّواْ شَيْئًا وَهُوَ شَرٌّ لَّكُمْ وَاللّهُ يَعْلَمُ وَأَنتُمْ لاَ تَعْلَمُونَ
Fighting is ordained for you, even though it be hateful to you; but it may well be that you hate a thing the while it is good for you, and it may well be that you love a thing the while it is bad for you: and God knows, whereas you do not know. (Q. 2:216)
Islam can be distilled in its name: Submission. Allah knows best. Therefore man must accept His command, given to humanity by his last emissary Muhammad.
Democracy means the government of people by the people. In Democracy men make the law. You cannot have that in Islam. In Islam the law comes from God. Man must obey even if those laws appear contrary to reason and are oppressive.
This is the reason why Muslims cannot oppose stoning adulterers or killing the apostates.
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Western people often are so proud of their freedom and their options to learn and get education on any given issue. And yet, on the issue of Islam so very many refuse to make use of it, instead they pick their own unfounded fantasies about what islam - in their views - should be so that the world would be less heavy with conflict, and then mistake that mental fantasy of theirs with the real thing. And although it is just a hallucination, it has accumulated a fearsome ammount of power over western thinking, supressing both freedoms and critical self-analysis and education, and even sees legislation and laws getting bend in favour of an totalitarian, inhumanen ideology that ultimately aims at their culture'S total destruction and the enslaving of all free (=non-Muslim) mankind. We even have started to add back special status for this "religion of peace", whereas our ancestors have fought over centuries to right take this special status away from relgions and keep it a separate thing from legislation, state and society. we reverse history - and not even in the name of Christianity or the church, but slavery and submission! Das ist doch zum Haare ausraufen!
That raises the question to people like me more and more often, why a suicidal culture of such foolery and self-denial even should be defended, when it is so eager to get subjugated and overrun. It is debates like in this thread that make me believe that if people cannot value freedom, they do not deserve freedom, and indeed maybe should get a collar around their necks. |
