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The Avon Lady 07-19-07 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020
Back to topic! Wait for the russians to throw out some british officals!

Say no more! Say no more!

Jimbuna 07-19-07 10:55 AM

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Britain's refusal to extradite exiled tycoon Boris Berezovsky to face embezzlement charges, and by Kremlin allegations last year of spying by British diplomats.
Can't have it both ways Gordon :nope:

USS_shipmaster 07-19-07 11:14 AM

[quote=Happy Times]
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Originally Posted by w-subcommander
Bezezovsky is just genious criminal businessman with PHD in math and sweet political intentions of a crokodile. If he got a refugee status in Great Britain that means Iranian President will be next person granted refugee status thanking HM Goverment. But Brits forgot (or I believe they dont want to know) that according Russian Constitution /Supreme Law / russian citizen cant be extradicted to any other state for trial. In these case British investigators have to go to Russia and do their job questioning everyone who was related by their opinion in the case and then write a petition to russian court.
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Nice law to have, if Russian citizens want to go abroad to commit assassinations or other crimes.:dead: Killing Litvinenko was just so stupid. Im starting to think there is some major power strugle going on behind the scenes in Russia. Thats never good.
Is there some good source somewhere on the web who is who inside the Kreml?

You forgot that USA did not have a tradition to extradict USA citizen to any country from its own soil for a long time. And Brits do not like to do it.
There is mainly massmedia histeria. I donot like Putin. But Brits PM behaviour is just gaining political points
You want Putin to broke its own Constitution. :up: LOL!!! :rotfl: Double standard is all around. All world policies are made from it.
Mankind smells like sh*t...
But may be you do not feel it in your ecological clean enviroment.

XabbaRus 07-19-07 11:22 AM

Bu tunder the 1957 treatey Russia can refuse extradition. AFAIK the russians have offered to prosecute in a Russian court but the Brits have refused. Citing unfair trial. How can Lugovoi expect to get a fair trial when the media in Britain have in effect considered him guilty from the off and with the amount of media coverage how can a jury give a fair verdict.

Also how anyone can trust what Berezovsky spews out I don't know.

Happy Times 07-19-07 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
Bu tunder the 1957 treatey Russia can refuse extradition. AFAIK the russians have offered to prosecute in a Russian court but the Brits have refused. Citing unfair trial. How can Lugovoi expect to get a fair trial when the media in Britain have in effect considered him guilty from the off and with the amount of media coverage how can a jury give a fair verdict.

Also how anyone can trust what Berezovsky spews out I don't know.

You really think Lugovoi is innocent? The radioactive trail he left through Europe?:roll:
We know he wont get sentenced in Russia. So if Russians start killing people in Europe we should start killing them in Russia. How do you like them apples?

And British officials confirmed the Berezovsky, assassination attempt.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2100345.ece

Berezovsky, is what he is, but Putin and his crew have commited more crimes than him so cut the double standards.

Jimbuna 07-20-07 04:58 PM

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Berezovsky, is what he is, but Putin and his crew have commited more crimes than him
Putin certainly aint the innocent he would have the world believe :nope:

Just a little more refined than his predecessors :yep:

XabbaRus 07-20-07 05:00 PM

Double standards. I never said the Kremlin doesn't have blood on its hands, but they make Berezovsky out to be a saint. I wonder how many journos were killed on his orders cos they got too close to his dealings?

Face it Happy you just don't like Russia and every thing you have to say about Russia is bad.

Happy Times 07-20-07 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
Double standards. I never said the Kremlin doesn't have blood on its hands, but they make Berezovsky out to be a saint. I wonder how many journos were killed on his orders cos they got too close to his dealings?

Face it Happy you just don't like Russia and every thing you have to say about Russia is bad.

Could you tell what good is going on in Russia at this moment? Or what good does Russia has to offer for the rest of us? Do we have to like them, do they like us?

Interesting read.
Especially this part.


Russian Duma passed a law authorizing the Russian President to use secret services as "death squads" in order to eliminate "extremists" -- even on the foreign territory (Federal Law of 27 July 2006 N 153-F3).



At the same time, the Duma amended another law, expanding the definition of "extremism" to include anyone "libellously" critical of the current Russian regime (Federal Law of 27 July 2006 N 148-F3).



http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...e.asp?ID=26509

w-subcommander 07-28-07 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times
Russian Duma passed a law authorizing the Russian President to use secret services as "death squads" in order to eliminate "extremists" -- even on the foreign territory (Federal Law of 27 July 2006 N 153-F3).
At the same time, the Duma amended another law, expanding the definition of "extremism" to include anyone "libellously" critical of the current Russian regime (Federal Law of 27 July 2006 N 148-F3).


http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...e.asp?ID=26509

Happy... You re so NAIVE. USA, UK, France, Israel and all major states have "death squads". Finland is too pure and innocent (sorry i meant neutral) to have its hands dirty... Green peace deeds are much better.
About the laws ..... :-) Do you heard for example about Partiotic Act???? :rotfl:Very interesting reading.
Politics is dirty stuff...
Its your problem do you like russia or russians or not.
Every Nation has a lot of stuff in its history to be proud of and to be ashamed of...

And again UK wants to make Putin brake its own Constitution to extradict Lugovoy. Interesting idea!!!!
HM Goverment and Putin Administration both are dancing in very pornografic way.
When people start talking about UK foreign policy I remind my self that English crown refused to give Nicolas II( UK king's cousin) and his family refugee status and after Nicolas II murder it was crying so lowdly about bolsheviks cruelty!!!!!
"England never had long term friends only long term interests." Lord Chamberlain.

CptSimFreak 07-29-07 04:21 AM

I guess Fins are still pissed off for getting freedom by Lenin. :rotfl:

w-subcommander 07-29-07 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CptSimFreak
I guess Fins are still pissed off for getting freedom by Lenin. :rotfl:

Yes. Lenin did it. They are still so happy!:hmm:

Happy Times 07-29-07 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by w-subcommander
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Originally Posted by CptSimFreak
I guess Fins are still pissed off for getting freedom by Lenin. :rotfl:

Yes. Lenin did it. They are still so happy!:hmm:


Yeah, sure..:roll:

Suggested reading, its your history also.

Grand Duchy of Finland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duchy_of_Finland

Russification of Finland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification_of_Finland

Finnish Jäger troops

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Jäger_troops

Finland's declaration of independence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland...f_independence

Finnish Civil War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Civil_War

XabbaRus 08-02-07 10:46 AM

Happy maybe you should read this article

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle2156186.ece
Makes interesting reading.

The Avon Lady 08-27-07 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Type941
7 OCTOBER
Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya, a critic of the Russian government and in particular the war in Chechnya, is shot dead in Moscow. Mr Litvinenko begins to investigate amid claims she was killed because of her work.

11 months later: 10 arrested in Russian reporter's death


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