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I have an AMD Sempron 2600 + that dont met the recomended especifications with 512 Mb RAM DDR 3200 and ATI 9250 with 256 Mb DDR AGP 4x

In harbours are noticeable the slow down especially in the first turn around but for the rest runs smoothly (even with emule, NOD32 and daemon tools in background).

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I realy realy think these suposed "State of the Art" PC's must be CRAP ! Why - Because I'm playing SHIII + GW + My own Mods on a PIII 1.2GHz PC. I have AA @ 8 and AF @ 8 and I get 24 FPS in Port as I sail out to sea. Once at Sea I get 50-70 FPS and when I come across a large convoy (40 plus ships) I get 30-40 FPS.

So with my measley 133 FSB an 1.2GHz CPU an 4 x AGP slot I'm basicaly wondering why I should invest in a P4!

Thats a PIII 1.2GHZ ppl, no where NEAR bare arse minimum sys spec's, yet I can run all the above easy as pie!

All I can say about those with FPS dramas, Turn the Crap OFF in the background and do ya PC a favour and do some system maintance!

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Originally Posted by Cdre Gibs

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Using "end it all " to turn everything unneeded off and routinely carry out comp maintenace but still get FPS hits - but as I said , if it bothered me I would uninstall it - easiest solution

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

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Originally Posted by Cdre Gibs

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Using "end it all " to turn everything unneeded off and routinely carry out comp maintenace but still get FPS hits - but as I said , if it bothered me I would uninstall it - easiest solution

very true

My comments were not aimed at you BBW. Since in all honesty you have never had a whinge about FPS. ;)

I've had the problem with the nav map dropping my fps. Has GW changed the map? If so, is there a way for me to get back to something which won't kill my fps, like pulling the files for the modded map and replacing them?

After reading some the posts on here I'm thinking of making my first VC upgrade too. From a X600 to possibly a X850XT. Is the X850XT better than the 9800XT?

i wanna get sh3 to run in my laptop but realise im gonna have to upgrade, my spec is 512mb ram
p3 1500 mhz
mobile radeon 7500 32mb

to cmdr gibbs your pc seems similar to mine. what grapics card do u have?

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Originally Posted by Wulfmann

I assume you posted this before you saw my reply.
Since that is the card I have.
It does everything great and cost 3 times as much a year ago.
If you buy that card when you install the driver, install the ATI Tool and set the fan speeds before you run any games.
Click the ATI tool open.
At the bottom right of the box click "settings"
The small window at the top (likely will say "Overclocking") click the pull down arrow which will open a window.
Click "Fan Control"
It will start with 5% on the first line (dumb, IMO). Simply change that and save the changes. Play with it.
I have it set at 31% start with
50% above 60C,
60% above 65C
70% above 70C
80% above 75C

It never reaches 75 in SH3 (Usually about 60-65) but can in CoD2 and MoHPA with them set at absolute max settings for everything (except bodies I have set to average in COD2).

Don't let this fan control scare you. This fan exhaust out the back of the case (it takes up two slots) and that is better for your case temps and the control allows you to dictate your noise and cooling levels as you require.
When you start playing with the OC sliders just turn on the 3D image and do it slowly making sure there are no anomalies. If you start seeing any back off 10 points lower.
After you save the new setting you must go to that same window where the fan control is (settings) open "start up" and then put the saved new speeds name (You save your speed changes and name them) so when you start up the PC that set of speeds will run. Or, you can let it default and go to the ATI tool and run the higher speeds when you play a game.
You have choices in control you never imagined with the X850XT and the ATI Tool.

Wulfmann

Wulfmann,
Thanks for your great advice on the choice of new graphics card:up: Have managed to install it with no dramas.Works like a dream with sh3 get top frame rates everywhere. But having trouble setting fan speeds. The only way to alter the fan speeds is with a programe called trixx but it does not let me change fan speeds to corespond with the different temps. Have tryed using the ati programe but does not mention anything about fan speeds. Any advice on this matter would be most helpfull,
Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction with the card could not be more happy:arrgh!: .
Happy hunting:ping:

Not the ATI set up or catalyst.
The ATI Tool
When you put the sapphire CD in it has the driver install and also has the ATI Tool (You can also get it from ATI site)
Install the tool to change the fan speeds
Then follow the above instructions I posted to find the fan speeds.

Wulfmann

Thanks Wulfmann will give this a go.:up:

Another good tool to use for removing unwanted background stuff is one called FSAutostart.
http://www.kensalter.com/fsautostart/

I use it all the time to start and stop my games.It allows you to shut down processes that EndItAll won't touch and then restart them when you are done playing.It also allows you to defrag the systems memory to open up as much of it as possible before running the game and also set the amount of CPU time you want the game to use.

Using this and the following system..

P4 3.0Ghz
1GB Ram
Nvidia 6600GT 128MB card 8x AGP

I get in port 20-25 fps but out in the open and the rest of the time I get anywhere from 65-120+ or more FPS.This is while playing the GW mod.

Intel Pentium 3200
1Gb Ram
Nvidea Geforce 6800Gt 265Mb with Silent-Pipe 2 (Soundless Heat Pipe Technology)

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Originally Posted by Wulfmann

Thanks Wulfmann found the tool and sorted it out. Thanks once agin for your help on this matter. I owe you one.:arrgh!:

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Originally Posted by Laffertytig

Originaly I had a AGE GForce Ti4800 - SH3 ran sweet, no probs with anything. But I also wanted to run BF2 and LotR BfMEII. The old Ti4800 couldnt run those games as it didnt have the Pixelshader 2 engine. So I got a Gigabyte GForce FX5900XT. Ran all of the above - but I then started to get the white smoke drama in SH3 that is common to the FX5000 series. So now I have a xFx GForce FX7800XT. Even tho this card is in the top margin, 1 must remember that my M/B only has a 4xAGP slot, so I am nowhere near running this card at its correct bandwidth.

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Originally Posted by Wulfmann

Thanks Wulfmann found the tool and sorted it out. Thanks once agin for your help on this matter. I owe you one.:arrgh!:

Not at all, although nice of you to say.
We all share what we can so you will surely do the same down the line.
This happened to be something I was aware of.
Others have done this countless times for my benefit as I am sure you will do for others. That is why communities like this thrive.

Wulfmann