That's the one, thank you.

Markus

Interesting you say that TarJak, I just got around to watching a documentary that was screen here in the UK on CH5 a couple of weeks ago and they to concluded the kill shot was indeed a unfortunate accident by Hickey. His evidence was never heard at the warren commission, which just concluded a cover up.

I found the documentry very interesting.

That's new to me. do you have a link to a youtube video or other streaming page, where this being displayed?

Edit found the link through TarJak

Markus

CH5 JFK'S Secret Killer: The Evidence

http://www.channel5.com/shows/jfks-s...r-the-evidence

Unable to fine it on youtube.

What impresses me is that Donahue seems to have zero interest in any grand conspiracy. He basically approaches the whole issue from a ballistics background. Donahue was able to recreate situations where a bullet from a AR-15 striking a target caused the target to jump toward the shooter (Kennedy's head flying backward)

However, it does seem astounding that a accidental discharge from a secret service agent's weapon during an assassination attempt ended up being the fatal blow and that a random shot hitting such a relatively small spot ended up being the fatal one. Crazier things have happened in the heat of combat I suppose.

I know that diehard conspiracy thoerists hate this explanation because it replaces a vast shadowy cabal with a coincidental tragedy. I also fail to see why the Warren Commision would feel the need to cover up secret service incompetence. The agent in question (Hickey) sure didn't care for the book. :03:

Actually the truth is that the KGB upset a house cat from New Orleans name of Mr.Bojangles.

You see the KGB worked out a deal with Mr.Bojangles that they would rig it so that Mr.Bojangles and not JFK would receive the Democratic nomination to run for president in 1960.

Well the KGB backed out and of course JFK won the nomination not Mr.Bojangles and Mr.Bojangles was very angry at this slight
from the KGB and thus began his complex plot.


Long story short Mr.Bojangles the cat killed JFK.

This is what attracted my attention. Donahue was originally hired by a tv show as a known ballistics expert to look at the evidence and ti try to recreate the Oswald shooting theory.
His work on calculating the trajectories was also impressive and thorough and again presents a far more compelling picture than either the CT crowd or even the official reports.

One question is whether Hickey or the other agents even realised what had happened even quite a bit later.

The biggest is if they did would they have been able to keep a lid on it for 50 years.

The Warren Commission was full of holes in it's approach to witnesses and who was or wasn't called. Its arguable as to what their motives in their actions in presenting a particular case would have been. I prefer not to speculate as its largely unproductive.

One interesting fact that the book points out is that according to the interviewed agents, there was no procedure for the Secret Service team to account for rounds taken out on the job and rounds expended. According to Mennigers enquiries they checked the weapon in and out of the armoury in Washington but that procedure didn't count rounds in or out.

As I said earlier the theories are all speculation and that will continue without evidence.

I find it difficult to believe that a side arm could discharge without the carrier being very aware of it.

Not just a side arm, but an AR-15.

The theory has some weight from a certain source who may have been privy to some inside information. Approximately one year after the assassination, LBJ was quoted as saying to Frank Cormier, White House correspondent that, were he ever killed, it wouldn't be from an assassin's bullet, it would be from a Secret Service agent's mistake---

"I ever get killed, it won't be because of an assassin. It'll be some Secret Service agent who trips himself up and his gun goes off. They're worse than trigger-happy Texas sheriffs. "

Maybe he was dropping hints...but that's just idle speculation on my part. There is enough of that already in the JFK assassination universe.

What I find amazing is the number of witnesses that died after Kennedy was killed. No, I don't believe the number is high as claimed and certainly many died natural causes, but it is strange of the several that had ties to Kennedy that were murdered or blamed on suicide.



http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKdeaths.htm

I imagine that a bunch of serious looking men carrying guns might look intimidating to a civilian. Then again he wouldn't be the first reporter to embellish what he sees. The point is that Secret Service agents are intelligent people, hand picked and highly trained.

The quote is from Frank Cormier's book, LBJ: The Way He Was.

Frank admits he did clean up the language a bit in some of LJB's more colorful quotes. :03:

It does seem odd that other secret service agents weren't on Agent Hickey like white on rice if it did happen.

An excellent observation and one that is always overlooked in debates and even in this thread. I've studied the assassination and have been to Dealy Plaza. Very interesting subject and one that will be debated forever.

I agree with Bubblehead, Armistead and the House Select Commmittee on Assassinations findings...not a one man job.

"The Men Who Killed Kennedy" is another good film.

My friends, so far we have only discussed who could have done it. But no one have discussed what could have been the motive(Sorry if I should have missed this, while reading every post in this thread)

Let me hear your proposal on what could have been the motive.

Markus

For a single shooter, the motive is obvious. For a multi-shooter conspiracy, Bubblehead1980 has proposed some reasonable ideas already.