Thank you privateer. No it was not directed at you only or even primarily you.

They are one and the same I'm afraid, even one of the devs on here has said as much. There are no suits screwing over the dev team, they are same same damned thing!

Afraid not Mate!
Dan and the rest of the Dev's don't make the big picture!
I met Dan Face to Face!
I know a few things many don't!
So do not EVER put Dan and the rest of the Dev's in the Suit position!

You'd be stunned at what those guys went through just to give you
what you have so far!

I'll stand with them any day of the week and take a sniper position!
:up:

Civil Law? It's the Napoleanoic code Louisiana's state law system is based on.

It is based on the French Civil Code, or as some calls it, Common Law.

I do know that in Quebec (Canada), you can sue for a defective product under the Consumer`s Protection Act. If any actions are to be taken, we have to coordinate our efforts. I will try to get some more info on my side, but IIRC, it has been done before (here in Quebec) for another program.

The 2 class actions suits against EA about spore won and the DRM was removed. However, the point of contention was that EA didn't properly specify what was required by the DRM.

So, evidentally, a class action lawsuit can make a company remove it's DRM. The rest of the stuff about unfinished product has never happened and is pretty frivolous.

The best thing to do is not purchase these games in the hopes that the suits will take the hint. Though they seem pretty thick-headed at times and prone to placing blame elsewhere in a fit of denial. Possibly even going so far as to like about repeated hacker DOS attacks.

I just knew it would be a bilge rat with a suggestion like that. Lawyers! Call the fire brigade! :yawn:

No, you can't use lawyers for anything than stealing your money and your time in this matter.:rotfl2:Do as nef suggests. White & Sea - if Ubi allows the patches to hit and the game is fixed: go buy it. I know I am! I cant wait to see all that gorgeous 3d-water.

Well said Rocking Robbins....well said indeed.....if only more people thought like this... :shifty:

Actually it was Dan who said himself that the suits and the devs shouldn't be separated, they're all in this together.

I think he sorta had too. He's working for the company. You cant say your personal feelings (on a public forum) when your representing your employer..... Conflict of intrests :hmmm:

He could've not mentioned it at all. :03:

True, he could have said nothing but he was asked. And i guess he gave a diplomatic answer on it.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...1&postcount=20

from this thread :-

What does elenaiba say...

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=163099

I'm pretty sure he wasn't asked about the suits vs. devs stuff, just about what he thinks of the feedback. :hmmm:

Anywho, here's the quite from Dan I mean:

I think it was in referance to this post :-

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...5&postcount=35

From this thread, which was the thread dan first answered in (that night/day, (damn time zones)) before the statment he gave :-
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=163013

These threads always kill me....Like those among us are going to pay lawyers hundreds of thousands of dollars to sue...OK, I'm in, where do I send my dollar to the cause...:D