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SUBMAN1

07-21-09 11:51 PM

Neal, I usually don't disagree with you, but here is the part that is disturbing to me from his speech:

Quote:

....And finally, just as America can never tolerate violence by extremists, we must never alter our principles. 9/11 was an enormous trauma to our country. The fear and anger that it provoked was understandable, but in some cases, it led us to act contrary to our ideals. We are taking concrete actions to change course. I have unequivocally prohibited the use of torture by the United States, and I have ordered the prison at Guantanamo Bay closed by early next year....

In bold.

If that isn't an admission, I do not know what is. Correct me if I am wrong.

-S

antikristuseke

07-22-09 12:01 AM

Holy ****, admiting that mistakes were made, what next, more honesty? WHERE WILL THIS END!?!?!??:-?

SUBMAN1

07-22-09 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antikristuseke (Post 1138327)

Holy ****, admiting that mistakes were made, what next, more honesty? WHERE WILL THIS END!?!?!??:-?

I wouldn't have thought much about it until you read the surrounding context, such as taking concrete actions against torture. These two things should have been separated. The fact that they were not means that it happened. That is the problem. Every Muslim extremist will hold that up as an admission of guilt for all others to see. Its justified now.

You may say this is untrue, but it is not me you have to convince.

-S

Max2147

07-22-09 12:24 AM

Obama's right - we did act against our ideals. If you think that stuff like we saw in the Abu Ghraib photos is in line with American ideals, then you believe in a very different America than most of us believe in.

Stealth Hunter

07-22-09 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1138314)

Do they have nuts?

Yes, and marshmellows too.

Task Force

07-22-09 02:02 AM

I want a cookie....:D

Stealth Hunter

07-22-09 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Task Force (Post 1138358)

I want a cookie....:D

Are you on our side?

Task Force

07-22-09 02:40 AM

Im part of the task force party... but for a cookie... ok.:)

Stealth Hunter

07-22-09 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Task Force (Post 1138369)

Im part of the task force party... but for a cookie... ok.:)

Alright then...:shifty:

mookiemookie

07-22-09 08:19 AM

Our next candidate for President:

http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/therem..._with_text.jpg

GoldenRivet

07-22-09 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1138476)

Our next candidate for President:

http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/therem..._with_text.jpg

would be an improvement over anything we have had in my lifetime :har:

Biggles

07-22-09 11:31 AM

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3221/bild004m.jpg

Biggles

07-22-09 01:00 PM

Sorry for doublepost, but this just in:
http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com...pg?w=500&h=412

Looks like your candidate is missing, but fortunately we have a suspect!

Task Force

07-22-09 01:21 PM

I think were best off with a alien as president...

GoldenRivet

07-22-09 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biggles (Post 1138599)

Sorry for doublepost, but this just in:
http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com...pg?w=500&h=412

Looks like your candidate is missing, but fortunately we have a suspect!

i'll help with the cavity search :yeah:

forgive me if i wear yellow rubber kitchen gloves though

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