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nikimcbee 10-05-08 04:17 PM

A dynamic cold war would be neat! Red Storm Rising part 2. Or an Axis/Allies sub game. Japanese, british.


Wait, what I'm I thinking, forget SH5 and do DC 2 that works with SH4:up: :hmm:

Molon Labe 10-05-08 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee
A dynamic cold war would be neat! Red Storm Rising part 2. Or an Axis/Allies sub game. Japanese, british.


Wait, what I'm I thinking, forget SH5 and do DC 2 that works with SH4:up: :hmm:


/agree

frenema 10-05-08 05:00 PM

Are they even going to do 5?

claybirdd 10-05-08 06:11 PM

The manual in 4 said I would have wolfpacks. WHERE ARE MY WOLFPACKS?:down: :down:

abclkhan 10-05-08 07:12 PM

I want a cold war sim because it would be cool to drive a diesel / nuke sub in a dynamic campaign with good graphics. I would like to use its resources, acoustic torpedoes, high speed maneuvers. Who thinks DW lacks action is wrong... when the game gets hot it really does.
It would be cool to drive a delta class at flank speed trying to escape from a torpedo.
And see it by the external view in high detail like a movie. As we do with sh3 and sh4.
By the way, I want also contemporary platforms, such as virginia and borei classes. And mainly the widespread diesel boats, with or without AIP.
WWII for me is an exhaustly explored theme. :hmm:

Sailor Steve 10-05-08 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bigwillydier
As far as the Silent Hunter Series goes though, they've done 2 in the Pacific and 2 in the Atlantic. I wonder what their thought process was after releasing two successful U-Boat iterations of the franchise and then going back to the Pacific. Is the WWII U-boat fan base really larger than the Pacific fan base?

That's a tough question; the thought processes I mean. Which has the bigger fan base? That's complicated by people like me, who enjoy both. I'd like to see both with all the complaints fixed and all the wishes answered. Other people want other things, but I think that is the easiest. Some want British and Dutch subs, others want a Japanese campaign. Both are good ideas, but would require a major revisions, especially getting all the Japanese interiors right, and spending time and money on the right voice actors. With something like the SH series as it is now, you can't just knock out some boats and a campaign and call it good. If people complain now about not having complete interiors I can imagine how they'll be when a Japanese version is released with American voices.

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It would be interesting to see the sales figures for each one. Since there hasn't been any major titles set in the Cold War, can we really even estimate how big the fan base would be for a Cold War sim? It could potentially be the biggest fan base as there are more people around today that remember the Cold War, it wasn't that long ago.. and even seems like it's coming back!
You have some good points. My only real objection is that the idea now is that you're the captain of a submarine, and so many really want so much more, such as full dynamics that let you affect the outcome. That is far beyond the power of any single captain (well, maybe a boomer skipper might destroy more cities than his opponent). I used to play Their Finest Hour, LucasArts' Battle of Britain game, and it had that option. When I played a German pilot, we conquered Britain, and when I was British the Germans never had a chance. I played both campaigns once, found it extrememly unbelievable and never played them again. Still played the game, though. I think a 'win the war' game is just that - you play the commander-in-chief and try to outwit your opponent. Silent Hunter is for sinking ships. Realistically if possible, believably if not.

There is plenty of room for all the games everybody wants. The question is, do they all belong crowded into this one sub-genre? Talk the right people into Dangerous Waters 2, if that's what you want. I don't have a desire to be Admiral Doenitz, or Admiral Nimitz, but I can see a market for that kind of game. But not Silent Hunter 5.

Some of us just want to drive a sub. If they go too far beyond that, they may gain some new fans, but they'll lose a lot of us old ones.

Hylander_1314 10-05-08 09:00 PM

I went with WWII. But if a new engine and simulator are produced, use the things that worked in the past, and correct the things that didn't work so well and impliment them in thenew game.Also it would be nice to see all combatants represented in a new game. Plus more variation in aircraft, and surface ships.

Zachstar 10-05-08 09:23 PM

Bad poll... There is no such thing as an "Era" of sub warfare as "Cold War" you did not indicate "Fictional Cold War" or "Hypothetical Cold War" so people are voting WW2 simply because they fear SH5 will be nothing but shadowing soviet boomers all day long.

pragr 10-06-08 02:35 AM

Royal Navy submarines, WWII era, North sea and Meditteran theater, and with some mine laying missions of course :up:

Arclight 10-06-08 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar
Bad poll... There is no such thing as an "Era" of sub warfare as "Cold War" you did not indicate "Fictional Cold War" or "Hypothetical Cold War" so people are voting WW2 simply because they fear SH5 will be nothing but shadowing soviet boomers all day long.

Yeah, that kinda influenced my vote. I was thinking either a proper/improved WWII or "hot" cold war. The latter wasn't an option, so WWII it was.

Rockin Robbins 10-06-08 08:11 AM

I remain militantly apathetic!http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...eys/Partay.gifhttp://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...ileys/ura1.gifhttp://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...gunyoudown.gif

ReallyDedPoet 10-06-08 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee
A dynamic cold war would be neat! Red Storm Rising part 2. Or an Axis/Allies sub game. Japanese, british.


Wait, what I'm I thinking, forget SH5 and do DC 2 that works with SH4:up: :hmm:

Yeah ditto to this :yep::up:


RDP

Sailor Steve 10-06-08 08:33 AM

I thought about asking you to join my new apathy society, but then I realized that I don't really care. Would you join if asked? probably not. But it doesn't matter - I don't care about that either.

Zayphod 10-06-08 01:51 PM

I voted future. Reason: many years back, there was a vapor-ware game called "Deep Angel" (was supposed to be either a CGI movie, game, or both, not sure). It never came to be, but the concept was an aircraft carrier sub that could travel hypersonic under the ocean using supercavitation.

Always wanted to work on a game like that where you don't already KNOW the outcome of the war, where one really big screw up on your part could mean the difference between winning the war for all of us, or dump all of us into the famous handbasket headed for Hell.

And no, not a cold war thing, either. I mean blast the crap out of something, and evade their destroyers.

Zayphod 10-06-08 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The General
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Originally Posted by Rilder
Das boot... IN SPACE!

You know, the submarine in space thing was kinda done in the last reel of a litttle film called Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. Check it out, it's an awesome movie.

Go back a little farther.

"Balance of Terror"

Looked very much like the film "The Enemy Below".


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