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Melonfish 09-26-07 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mic1184
i've been playing SH3 for quite a long time now (nearly a year) and today was the FIRST time i thought something was weird. only today (installing Racerboy's flag-and-pennants-mod, seeing the kriegsflagge with the swastica on it) i realised that its the only game in which you solitarily play on the fascist side. i can imagine that this could be a bit weird for esp. you British, isnt it?

Actually i'd prefer more games from the German side, seriously the german army, navy and airforce of the time were THE best at what they did, they were the most innovative and motivated and technically advanced.
i'm quite honestly fed up of playing games where the victorious americans/british/allies storm accross german front lines wasting the "evil" nazi soldiers... i mean wtf? anyone seen the new medal of honour? whats with the red eyed gas masked guys? don't even get me started on wolfenstein....
i mean why the hell can't i shoot me some yanks for a change? what about that there british navy and its so called might ;) or those pesky desert rats eh?

as its been said WWII was 60 years ago and people are leaving predjudice behind we can all gather and learn from the information and understand what happened without holding grudges and i'll admit its more recent but its a change for the good.

i mean i play tabletop wargames as german forces. they're just kewler then anyone else! rolling my panzers accross the desert trying to take out those dug in defenders at tobruk! grrr! hehe

as for flags, well i prefer them to be accurate it irks me if they're not.

Jimbuna 09-26-07 09:39 AM

I'm not disagreeing with the initial fundamental point you raise about it being good to be able to play the German side. After all, that is what we all do when we play SH3.
However, what you state in the second part of your first paragraph is certainly not true in every aspect.
Your comments are simply a personal assertion and certainly open to individual opinion and belief.
As good as their army, navy and airforce were at the time, I am sure many people here can give clear examples of where they came out 'second best'.
You must take into account the fact that they were prepared in advance for what their armed forces were about to embark upon.
From a British perspective I would say it wasn't probably until El Alemein that their army first tasted defeat.
The Kriegsmarine....rarely left port.
The Ubootwaffe....never sank more than 3% of Allied shipping.
The Luftwaffe.....failed miserably in what is commonly known as The Battle of Britain.
As for innovation........the Allies found the means to transport many millions of tons of war materials around the world and carry on and make do despite huge shortfalls in raw materials that would normally have come from areas of the world lost very early on in the war.
Technology is debatable, but I would offer as two early war years examples....radar and asdic/sonar.

This could develop into a long thread. ;)

Bismarck 09-26-07 10:31 AM

I would really like an FPS where you play as the Germans. Germany had the better tanks and ships while America had mass production.

I reall get sick of seeing Shermans everywhere. Wheres the British?

Melonfish 09-26-07 10:55 AM

some guys were working on a german front mod for cod then cod2 unfortunatly it died a death. the demo for the first one was ace tho. you made a fighting withdrawl off the bluff in normandy.

pete

siber 09-26-07 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melonfish
i mean why the hell can't i shoot me some yanks for a change?

Maybe we should petition for a realistic Gulf War 1991 simulation/game? Then you can play as Americans and kill Brits! :lol:

(The UK lost more troops to American 'friendly fire' in Iraq/Saudi Arabia/Kuwait in 1991 than to Iraqi fire...)

thefretmaster 09-26-07 11:13 AM

anyone play enemy territory?
you can be american or german
not realistic tho

Bismarck 09-26-07 11:50 AM

I play it. Joined a clan etc etc. Only specialists used the K43...

Steel_Tomb 09-26-07 03:47 PM

For me its nice to be playing "as the bad guys", I can imagine how bad it must of been for us brits in the merchant fleet or the RN during the war, especailly during the "happy times"...but for me its nice to see the war from a different perspective...the terror that sets in when you hear the first pings from a Black Swan DD in your VIIC really brings home what it must have been like for those men (and boys towards the end of the war) who volunteered for U-Boat service. The other day I sank a large modern tanker with one eel and when she broke in two and sank in about 30 seconds I shouted "yeah!" etc etc, my parents wondered what I was so happy about. But anyway, enough of my random ranting....

The war is something that should never be forgotten, as its a time in our history which shows the failings of man kind in brutal detail...but I hold no bad feelings towards Germany etc...the troops were doing what they were supposed to do, just like the armed forces of any nation do (apart from the SS who were just murders, not soldiers). However I dispise those "neo-nazi's"...how anyone can follow such a deluded ideology in these times!


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