OK! I may be self-centered...3 tours in OEF and 2 in OIF will do that to you!!!

I'm just upset because 60 bucks in my household doesn't grow on trees! Granted, I really want to play this game as I've been a sub sim fan from the Gato days, but I should not have to wait until a modder fixes what should have been fixed! I shouldn't have to wait for a patch 2 or even 3 weeks after a release just to get my SONAR / RADAR working properly. It's not about class - here at Subsim it's about knowledge, and with that knowledge comes some of the products that get's those eighteen year olds down the street playing! That being said, we will be SH4 toughest critics, UBI's worst enemy, not because we placate them but because we know what the **** we are talking about! We expect more because we know how it should be!

But under your avator it says: Join Date: Jan 2002.:lol: Sorry Geetrue, just had to do it!:yep:

I agree, but like anything, its all in HOW you do it. ;)

I have to admit, if it wasnt for the "UBi suxs you shouldn't buy this game!" i wouldn't have put my 2 cents in on this issue at all. That post Irritated me. Maybe im old and jaded, but theres a reason why i don't (normally) preorder, and why i orginally didnt pick up SH3 (0r any other game) until there was a patch available for it. Ive been gaming on PC's since 1986, so i know the drill. When i preordred, i did so knowing what id have to put up with. Im not going to whine until after the last patch is posted, and beleive me, when i complain i pitch a b**ch like few can :88)

I can answer that question better than the attorney general can answer why he fired those eight attorney's ... lol

You see when I joined in 1999 ... Neal had a different server and as the forum kept growing he changed it like three times to what it is today. Which resets join date and number of post ...

I use to be geetrue2 and enjoyed many good visits to subsim.com to fellowship with like minded people in love with submarines and submarine sims ...

You should have seen the thread wars we had in the old days ... Those guys really knew how to fling it too, but SH2 came and went, SH3 is still hanging in there and SH4 will be top sub sim as soon as the modders get through.

If the good Lord be willing I'll still be here for SH5 ... :up:

I'm growing weary of the graphics centric complaining and I could give a flying fork about SH4 not having AA or FSAA or NCAA or AAA or whatever the hell all these people are griping about it not having. It's a simulation game. If it accurately simulates the submarine war in the Pacific with graphics that aren't glaringly bad, that's what I'm happy about.

I think that the influences of the console generation and valuing looks above actual gameplay are seeping in. The only actual criticism of the game that I've read that holds any water for me is the rumored non-functionality of the sonar and radar stations. But I would think that's pretty easy to fix in a patch.

Nowhere do I read any criticisms about errors in the characteristics of the boat's speeds or equipment or the like. I don't see any complaints about being sent to patrol areas that aren't historically accurate. I don't see any complaints about the damage model. I don't see complaints about Japanese air power being too weak or too strong. And if that means that those problems don't exist and the only thing wrong with the game is some stupid jagged lines, then I say bring on the jagged lines because I'm ready to refight the Pacific submarine war! :ping:

I guess my rant is done now too.

You should have a look through this thread - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=107766&page=2

Things like hydrophones not working are pretty major issues in my book. This isn't looking good at all.:cry:

Oh yeah, this thread is for constructive criticism right? Hmmm, how do I state that in constructive terms.......?

Got it! Fix hydrophones.

There we go, constructive. :roll:

@Geetrue: Well slap my mouth!!:oops::D

That's right mookiemookie and another thing on the plus side ...
I don't see anyone posting that the game is crashing to desk top
or blue screens.

No one has posted about music yet, radio shows or messages and
I know they are in the game ... give it time ... time heals all.

Fair enough, but understand that different things hold different levels of importance for different people. Just because you couldn't "give a flying fork about SH4 not having AA or FSAA," does it make it any less valid a concern for those that find this important to them? After all, this is a forum and by it's very nature will incite discussion, good and bad. As long as posters respect the lay of the land, I see nothing wrong with voicing one's opinion within reason.

Oh, and I think you mean "couldn't give a flying fork," as "I could give a flying fork" implies you give a fork, which apparently you do not.

;)

Your forgiven ... you too wastegate ... don't make me break out my stripes :lol:

True, true. I was just throwing my $0.02 in and opening myself up to the flames...as you said, voicing an opinion. :up: Also typing while annoyed. And we all know how well that usually turns out. Those who do find that graphics are important to them and express it in mature ways are fine by me. Those who create "ZOMG UBI SUXX0RZ" threads are not.

Grammar Nazi :p

That would be a major issue in my book as well. But maybe it's a simple fix in one of the config or .dat files. Who knows what kind of voodoo the modders do? I don't. Wait and see. :yep:

Please post constructive criticism here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=107793

Thread closed.