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I'd say that's a decline, but not in a bad way.

But for SubSims the USA is not the main market, not even for a Sim featurinmg US submarines.

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

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Originally Posted by macky

I have 2 points to add:

1) According to PC gamer there is no decline in PC gaming, in fact this will be the year of the PC. With dual core being favoured by MS and big game developers as being the breakthrough. Windows vista was made for the pc gamer. Doubt MS would throw away a lot of developing money if they thought the pc market was in decline. Although we dont see a lot of pc games on shelves, apparently the online market (legitamate one not the pirates) is booming. World of Warcraft have exceeded 8million subscribers which is bigger than many countries :p

Stole this from Wikipedia:

US PC Game Software Sales [2] [3][4]

1998 - $1.7 billion
1999 - $1.9 billion
2000 - $1.78 billion (84.9 million units)
2001 - $1.75 billion (83.6 million units)
2002 - $1.4 billion (61.5 million units)
2003 - $1.2 billion (52.8 million units)
2004 - $1.1 billion (45 million units)
2005 - $953 million (38 million) [5] + $344 million digital sales [6]
2006 - $970 million [7]

I'd say that's a decline, but not in a bad way. Like someone else said, I think PCs will fill that niche for people who want games that are deeper than "if it moves, shoot it." I hate consoles because I feel the games on them are dumbed down for the masses, and that's why I stick with PC strategy and sim games.

As for the people who think that a CD key check will stop piracy cold, look at what happened when Valve used Steam for Half Life 2. It was cracked shortly after release. Granted, it made it harder for the pirates but they did find ways around it. I don't think there's one be all, end all answer to piracy. It's a constant cat and mouse game.

On the last one did they forget to add digital sales?

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Originally Posted by StandingCow

On the last one did they forget to add digital sales?

I guess digital sales numbers weren't available for 2006. I work in the securities industry so I may have access to a market research report with these figures. I'll go see what I can dig up.

Well I look at it as obvious that PC sales have declined - pirates or not

For most ppl I know the console is king
All the type of games my girls used to play on PC are now on console so they dont touch the PC for gaming anymore - suits me as I dont have to share time lol

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

We might see a boost in PC sales in the near future now that Microsoft is opening up a PC/XBOX 360 gaming lobby.

It would be ideal if we PC'ers could take on the consoles.:arrgh!:

Well heck I was INVITED by Ubisoft to be one of the first to pre-order the Delux collectots Edition.....Have the e-mail still on my comp....Be one of the very first to pre-order one of only 3000 units worldwide to be made, the delux Edition containing..Blah , blah..you get the picture.....Put my money right up front, paid by credit card...I now have an invoice and Confirmation Inc order number...I whacked out £49.99...That's a few quid.....I EXPECT my game to arrive VERY SOON....Yeah I'll hold my breath..Not for long though...Really how can some countries get it in shops or by pre order and others ARE still waiting...

Deep six.....Out

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Originally Posted by DJSatane

Actually with SH4 you do need a cd-key that comes with either manual or inside dvd box and its a unique key that you will use along with your ubi account to be able to play online. SH3 didnt need this but with 4 every person that buys will have unique key. This is good because for those that want to play online have to buy the game :)

I bought 2 SH-3 and a friend bought his and all 3 have the same key
code.I can post my key code and will bet most have the same. We
can have a pole on this.

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Originally Posted by CCIP

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

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I dont see where this is coming from, this happens with ALL GAMES. Sure it sucks, but it has nothing to do with Ubi.

Exactly. Just like nearly all stores experience shoplifting.

Mind you, the release differences are only my complaint. When it's a question of logistics, it's fine by me.

Remember SH2? There was a NINE MONTH delay in shipping in australia...

And they wondered why the whole 29th flotille had pirate copies?