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Yahoshua 06-01-07 12:12 AM

That's a real game?

The Avon Lady 07-16-07 11:57 AM

Bump.

U.K. Expels 4 Russian Diplomats in Litvinenko Dispute.

XabbaRus 07-16-07 02:03 PM

Unecessary diplomatic bull****.

Happy Times 07-16-07 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
Unecessary diplomatic bull****.

What would Russia do if MI6 killed Lugovoi in Russia, Litvinenko was a British citizen.

XabbaRus 07-16-07 05:12 PM

For about a month. I'm not saying his killing was right but the way the press over here are emphasising he was a British citizen as though he was some great person.

why won't the British extradite Boris Berezovsky, becasue they say he won't get a fair trial. Please tell me how Lugovoi would get a fair trial in Britain when the press here has all but assumed he is guilty, how could the jury be impartial?

It makes me sick that the UK government hands out asylum to the likes of Berezovsky who is one of the biggest crooks in the post soviet period who was quite happy to stay while it suited him but as soon as he fell out of favour he runs away and has become a champion for democracy in Russia. You never here anything in the UK press about Berezovsky's past. For all I know Berezovsky could have had Litvinenko murdered to make Russia look bad. According to a treaty ~Russia signed in 1957 they don't HAVE to extradite Lugovoi. The Russians have offered to have Lugovoi tried in Russia taking into account all the UK prosecution's evidence, but no, the tria won't be fair, and in the UK it will due to the proud tradition of justice in this country cough cough, unless there is a multi-billion pound arms deal and investigations are halted on the grounds of national security.

bookworm_020 07-16-07 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
in the UK it will due to the proud tradition of justice in this country cough cough, unless there is a multi-billion pound arms deal and investigations are halted on the grounds of national security.

I believe the U.S. is now asking for all the information on the deal now.

Back to topic! Wait for the russians to throw out some british officals!

Happy Times 07-18-07 03:12 AM

Security services ‘foil plot to kill Berezovsky at the London Hilton’

Boris Berezovsky fled Britain three weeks ago on the advice of Scotland Yard, amid reports that he was the target of an assassination attempt by a suspected Russian hitman.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2094719.ece


RAF scrambles to intercept Russian bombers

RAF fighter jets were scrambled to intercept two Russian strategic bombers heading for British airspace yesterday, as the spirit of the Cold War returned to the North Atlantic once again.



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2093759.ece

Happy Times 07-18-07 05:12 AM

Timeline: Litvinenko death case

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6179074.stm

XabbaRus 07-18-07 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Times
Security services ‘foil plot to kill Berezovsky at the London Hilton’

Boris Berezovsky fled Britain three weeks ago on the advice of Scotland Yard, amid reports that he was the target of an assassination attempt by a suspected Russian hitman.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2094719.ece


RAF scrambles to intercept Russian bombers

RAF fighter jets were scrambled to intercept two Russian strategic bombers heading for British airspace yesterday, as the spirit of the Cold War returned to the North Atlantic once again.



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2093759.ece

And your point is? What has the interception of Russian aircraft heading for Britain to do with Litvinenko. It's not like it hasn't happened before.

As for Berezovsky I wouldn't trust him not to sell his grandmother down the river. He is a perfect example of the UK giving asylum to people who don't deserve it. If you believe he is a champion of democracy and a poor persecuted man then you are deluding yourself. But then again you have made it obvious of your dislike for Russia, so is it a question of your sympathetic to him because he has only bad things to say about the Russian government.

Happy Times 07-18-07 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus
Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Times
Security services ‘foil plot to kill Berezovsky at the London Hilton’

Boris Berezovsky fled Britain three weeks ago on the advice of Scotland Yard, amid reports that he was the target of an assassination attempt by a suspected Russian hitman.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2094719.ece


RAF scrambles to intercept Russian bombers

RAF fighter jets were scrambled to intercept two Russian strategic bombers heading for British airspace yesterday, as the spirit of the Cold War returned to the North Atlantic once again.



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2093759.ece

And your point is? What has the interception of Russian aircraft heading for Britain to do with Litvinenko. It's not like it hasn't happened before.

I dont know, the stories were related?

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As for Berezovsky I wouldn't trust him not to sell his grandmother down the river. He is a perfect example of the UK giving asylum to people who don't deserve it. If you believe he is a champion of democracy and a poor persecuted man then you are deluding yourself. But then again you have made it obvious of your dislike for Russia, so is it a question of your sympathetic to him because he has only bad things to say about the Russian government
I dont think no such thing, he is the one that made Putin. Its just intresting to see these medieval court conspiracies play out. There are lots of things good in Russia and lots that arent, the goverment is one of those. So yes, i like it when he makes them angry and reveals their true intentions and fragile egos.

w-subcommander 07-19-07 12:29 AM

I have two answers on you discussion guys:

(Hope you like it.)

1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D3Gq...related&search=

2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkudf...related&search=

The Avon Lady 07-19-07 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w-subcommander
I have two answers on you discussion guys:

(Hope you like it.)

1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D3Gq...related&search=

2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkudf...related&search=

I don't know about the first cartoon, but are you implying by the 2nd one that Berezovsky is being tailed?

:|\\

w-subcommander 07-19-07 02:28 AM

Bezezovsky is just genious criminal businessman with PHD in math and sweet political intentions of a crokodile. If he got a refugee status in Great Britain that means Iranian President will be next person granted refugee status thanking HM Goverment. But Brits forgot (or I believe they dont want to know) that according Russian Constitution /Supreme Law / russian citizen cant be extradicted to any other state for trial. In these case British investigators have to go to Russia and do their job questioning everyone who was related by their opinion in the case and then write a petition to russian court.

As a guy who lived in Russia more than 30 years and having American life experience for 8 years I can say that West and Russia , both live in their two private fictional space-time Universes divided by prides, biases and mass media.

Happy Times 07-19-07 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w-subcommander
I have two answers on you discussion guys:

(Hope you like it.)

1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D3Gq...related&search=

2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkudf...related&search=

I liked them, especially the Bolero, leaves it open to interpretation.:)

Happy Times 07-19-07 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w-subcommander
Bezezovsky is just genious criminal businessman with PHD in math and sweet political intentions of a crokodile. If he got a refugee status in Great Britain that means Iranian President will be next person granted refugee status thanking HM Goverment. But Brits forgot (or I believe they dont want to know) that according Russian Constitution /Supreme Law / russian citizen cant be extradicted to any other state for trial. In these case British investigators have to go to Russia and do their job questioning everyone who was related by their opinion in the case and then write a petition to russian court.

As a guy who lived in Russia more than 30 years and having American life experience for 8 years I can say that West and Russia , both live in their two private fictional space-time Universes divided by prides, biases and mass media.

Nice law to have, if Russian citizens want to go abroad to commit assassinations or other crimes.:dead: Killing Litvinenko was just so stupid. Im starting to think there is some major power strugle going on behind the scenes in Russia. Thats never good.
Is there some good source somewhere on the web who is who inside the Kreml?


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