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em2nought 12-16-14 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2267477)
Gorenje, the company that produces washing machines and ovens, almost went into weapons production. A submachine gun was developed that saw action in 1991. It was so weak, the Yugoslav officer that got hit in the war just pulled the bullet out. Managed to penetrate the skin and nothing more :oops:

Just about all you need is a welder, brake, drill press, and shop press to start turning out AK-47s. :D

Von Tonner 03-06-15 04:58 AM

The Department of Justice has released a very detailed and interesting report on just what did go down between Wilson and Brown.

http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politic...937b-130044809

And the report by the same department on the closure of the Trayvon Martin investigation concluding that no civil charges are to be brought against Zimmerman.


http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politic...937b-130044809

Oberon 03-10-15 12:31 PM

Meanwhile, the same Department releases a report into policing in Ferguson:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/p...rguson-report/

mapuc 03-10-15 12:56 PM

Sorry I have to say it

It disgust me when a cop behave in a rotten way.

Markus

Jimbuna 03-10-15 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2295589)
Meanwhile, the same Department releases a report into policing in Ferguson:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/p...rguson-report/

Doesn't make pleasant reading for law enforcement in the area.

Oberon 03-10-15 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2295620)
Doesn't make pleasant reading for law enforcement in the area.

Aye, that's the trouble when you get rotten eggs in a basket, makes the whole thing stink. Even if it's not representative of the whole basket, it still puts people off buying those eggs. :nope:

AngusJS 03-10-15 02:21 PM

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Summer of 2012. A 32-year-old African-American was cooling off in his car after a basketball game in a public park.
What comes next is a series of civil rights violations described in the Justice Department report that resulted in the man losing his job as a federal contractor.
A Ferguson police officer demands the man's Social Security number and identification before accusing him of being a pedophile and ordering the man out of his car.
When the officer asked to search the man's car, the 32-year-old refused, invoking his constitutional right.
The response? The officer arrested the man at gunpoint, slapped him with eight charges, including for not wearing a seat belt, despite the fact that he was sitting in a parked car. The officer also cited him for "making a false declaration" because he gave his name as 'Mike' instead of 'Michael.'
"The man told us that, because of these charges, he lost his job as a contractor with the federal government that he had held for years," the report says.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/04/politi...port-shocking/


Thank goodness our men in blue are protecting us from the basketball player/pedophile threat. Do whatever it takes, boys! Falsely arrest them and walk all over their civil liberties, if you must!

:/\\!!

Pathetic. This is why people don't trust cops - many of them don't deserve it.

Jimbuna 03-10-15 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2295628)
Aye, that's the trouble when you get rotten eggs in a basket, makes the whole thing stink. Even if it's not representative of the whole basket, it still puts people off buying those eggs. :nope:

Yeah, experienced some of that first hand over the years :yep:

Oberon 03-10-15 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2295656)
Yeah, experienced some of that first hand over the years :yep:

Aye, I figured you might well have. The UK police has had its own fair share of bad publicity, followed by restructuring and retraining, followed by another bit of bad publicity and so on and so forth.
Funny how it usually co-incises with government intentions, isn't it? :03:

Jimbuna 03-10-15 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2295659)
Aye, I figured you might well have. The UK police has had its own fair share of bad publicity, followed by restructuring and retraining, followed by another bit of bad publicity and so on and so forth.
Funny how it usually co-incises with government intentions, isn't it? :03:

Rgr that...very often the case, the tail trying to wag the dog :yep:

Stealhead 03-10-15 10:31 PM

Well a police force is a microcosm of society and internal problems are a reflection of society as a whole. Some cops in the same squad may dislike each other or even fight each other like these guys http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nP5tX096BiY not really a fight but a good cop keeping a bad cop and an upset suspect under control.

I have only one "bad" encounter with the police once when I was on leave from the military and forgot that unlike Germany in Florida (and most states) having an open container of alcohol is illegal. So in this case one cop was a jerk the other was cool. I did not get in any trouble of course I watched my tounge.

The duty is supposed to be protect and serve and to uphold the law no matter who the person is.

Of course I can only say what I personally have experienced as true and unbiased.Of course I have heard things which I deem to be true from current or former LE about bad cops that would make me cautious. For example in school a friends father was a deputy he warned us in the next county that they very often planted illegal drugs even to avoid driving a certain roads.

Von Tonner 03-12-15 04:31 AM

Ok, the department hears the community on its complaints, does an extensive investigation, identifies problems and unacceptable behaviour in some of its personel resulting in dismissals, resignations and puts forward a working solution to address grievances of the community.

Communities response? They hold a protest to demonstrate that they are not satisfied with the resignations and then shoot two cops.

And then some people still ask why the police dont "pussy-foot" when dealing with certain people or communities.


"Before the shooting Thursday, some at the protest were chanting to show they weren't satisfied with the resignations of Jackson and City Manager John Shaw, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported.

In addition to Jackson, Ferguson's court clerk was fired last week and two police officers resigned. The judge who oversaw the court system also resigned, and the City Council on Tuesday agreed to a separation agreement with the city manager."

http://news.yahoo.com/st-louis-post-...055552082.html

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psxgejvtmz.jpg

Oberon 03-12-15 08:10 AM

I think really that it's gone beyond the point of no return now. Although one should not tar a group of people for the action of a minority, it's clear that no matter what the local PD do there will be no satisfaction, and to be honest I suspect that only the closure and restructuring of the local PD will cause any acceptance, and perhaps might be the best solution.

Betonov 03-12-15 08:33 AM

They should send in the special forces.
I'm guessing people trust the army and they have the most control over their weapons.

Oberon 03-12-15 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2296195)
They should send in the special forces.
I'm guessing people trust the army and they have the most control over their weapons.

I believe they sent in the Guard a while back, back when it was likely to flare up. I doubt they will at the moment since the protests themselves are getting smaller as time goes on.


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