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Armistead 11-29-14 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2265061)
Heck no they don't like pulling over a law abiding citizen who knows and exercises his rights. They want pushovers who they can bully and steal from.
Air filter stash?
A fake charcoal canister is the way to go.:up:

I trust the dog hit was just one of their commonly used lies? Though I think they have some of the dogs trained to do that. Were you in Tennessee? Those boys can't tell the difference between a pot leaf and a Buckeye.


I'd just came into Georgia.. I did have meds in my truck for my nerve disease which we took out. It looked like the typical false alert command cops do with dogs to get their free look into your vehicle, but possible he reacted to where my meds were....

Hehe, obvious I was jok'n about the stash.....

I did send in forms and pictures of damage done to my equipment, but I never heard anything and just said screw it after one last letter, about $400 worth of damage.

Honestly, when I said no, it was total disrespect on their part...

Rockstar 11-29-14 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2265048)
Oh hell, we love fines as well, our system will fine ya, take your stuff, etc.

Told it once before, I got stopped years ago. I was several states away working near Texas and on my way home. Really wasn't stopped, had a flat tire on my trailer being pulled by a van. Obvious he thought I might be a dope runner, so he asked questions and wanted to search. When I said "no", it opened up a can of unconstitutional whoopass on me. You know what started it...I had to get the cop to call a guy to change my tire. When I paid him, I pulled a large wad of cash out of my pocket, probably about $2000 in a roll. In America, it's probable cause to a cop if you carry lots of cash, even if you're white.......They took my money, said a dog hit on my van, tore it apart, trailer as well, threw my clothes in the mud, etc. The dog probably hit on my meds, some narcotics, but I told him I had them, even showed...But seems people use legal meds to try to foil drug hits from dogs as an excuse, so they did a long search, about two hours and still kept asking me where my drugs were....Bet I had 10 cop cars out there, few higher ups, etc....I didn't think I was gonna get my money back. Ending, they were probably just pissed when I declared my right to say "no".

Thank God I was white, proved I was a legit contractor, working where I said I was. So, I picked my clothes out of the mud, put all my equipment, some broken by the cops, back in my trailer....and drove home..

Thankfully they never found my stash in the air filter...:03:

In my experience if you did as you claim have a stash and it was known by others particularly by someone you may have recently pissed off. The police might have been acting on a tip by an anonymous caller and went straight into a 'secondary' search.

Dread Knot 11-29-14 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2265048)
Bet I had 10 cop cars out there, few higher ups, etc....

You probably had the local Grand Dragon out there as well and didn't know it. You should have given the Klan salute and you're on your way, son. :D

Oberon 11-29-14 08:14 PM

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CaptainHaplo 11-30-14 02:15 AM

Blacks are 7 times more likely to commit a crime in the US. Whether that is caused by economics, social constructs, genetics or whatever else is cause for debate.

What is not debatable is that when the riots hit Ferguson, they didn't target "the racist police" or government that supposedly represses the black community - instead they targeted the local liquor store, the shoe store with all the Nike products, the McDonald's and Taco Bell. Not one of those businesses had anything to do with the shooting, or the subsequent non-indictment.

A woman lost her hair salon because rioters looted and burned it down. She is a woman of color - a small business owner who was trying to provide a usable service to her community - and what did it get her? She is just one of many in Ferguson to suffer at the hands of the rioters wanting "justice for Mike Brown".

The guy who runs the convenience store that Mike Brown stole from - you know, the little guy that the "gentle giant" Brown assaulted while stealing from him - his store got looted too.

There are a lot of stories like that out of Ferguson. But the rioters don't care - free burgers, free shoes, free big screen TV's - all in the name of "justice".

Yes, if you are black in Ferguson, you are 2x more likely to be arrested than if you are white. Then again - 85% of the people there are black - so demographics would indicate that number would be expected to be way higher.

Most of the people arrested in the riots and demonstrations? Not from Ferguson.

People torching buildings? Not from Ferguson.

Know what most folks in Ferguson have been doing? Regardless of race - they have mostly been keeping their distance from any of this crap.

Is racism alive? Sure it is.
Racism is NOT, however, merely a white oppressing black equation. If you are white and think it is - try walking the streets of a "hood" neighborhood by yourself in any major city in the US at night.

Racism won't end - but the black community could do a heck of a lot in seeing it lessen if they didn't consistently go out and act like a stereotypical "black thug".

Wolferz 11-30-14 03:08 AM

Color shouldn't matter
 
We have thugs in every color and from every walk in life.
They don't belong on our streets and they certainly don't belong in our police ranks. Officer Wilson made critical errors in the performance of his duty that August day and a young fellow lost his life as a result. Was it Wilson's fault? Yes. Yes it was.
I don't think it's standard procedure to roll up next to someone and start barking orders through your open window. Those patrol cars are equipped with a public address speaker tied into the two way radio. Wilson could have given his orders from a very safe distance and not gotten out of the car until Brown complied or back up arrived on scene to assist.
No matter now. The point is moot since Wilson has decided to resign.
Wilson screwed up and look at what it caused in it's aftermath.:nope:
It's disgusting.

Dowly 11-30-14 04:25 AM

@Wolferz Nobody forced Michael Brown to assault Wilson.

Wolferz 11-30-14 05:05 AM

With age comes knowledge. With knowledge comes wisdom.
 
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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 2265159)
@Wolferz Nobody forced Michael Brown to assault Wilson.


True that. But, Wilson put himself in a position to be assaulted. Was Wilson so arrogant that he falsely assumed he would have instant respect from a man twice his size? And that he would get immediate obedience from a possible suspect because he was wearing a badge?
I've seen the pictures of Wilson that were taken at the hospital. He only suffered a minor abrasion to his right cheek that I could see. Don't get me wrong here. I'm not saying that Michael Brown was innocent in this altercation but, neither was officer Wilson who was supposed to be a trained professional policeman. We don't know what actually transpired in the way of conversation prior to Brown seeking to grab the gun but, I'm thinking that Michael Brown had delusions of being a badass because of his size and he found out the consequences of being young and dumb and not very wise. Now he's dead. Ferguson is half burned down and a police officer is seeking employment. Hopefully in a different career field.
All of it preventable if the officer had done his job right.

Betonov 11-30-14 05:22 AM

It's everyone's fault.

Brown could have not took an agresive stance against Wilson, Wilson could have responded differently or maybe even used his baton against an unarmed thug, the state could have focused more on non-lethal training for officers, the state could not have let the economy deteriorate to a level that blacks choose a thug life and not of an employed citizen (and that means not just the current administration) and let's not forget the media, the modern plague, that stoked the fires by sensational reporting.

Wolferz 11-30-14 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2265172)
It's everyone's fault.

Brown could have not took an agresive stance against Wilson, Wilson could have responded differently or maybe even used his baton against an unarmed thug, the state could have focused more on non-lethal training for officers, the state could not have let the economy deteriorate to a level that blacks choose a thug life and not of an employed citizen (and that means not just the current administration) and let's not forget the media, the modern plague, that stoked the fires by sensational reporting.

Yellow journalism does a great deal to incite these things. But, unfortunately, the fifth estate is protected by our constitution.

And yes, when the finger of blame gets pointed, there are three more fingers pointing back at the accuser. That's why I point like an Army drill instructor. You get all five of them at once bby.:stare:

The really sad part about it is that the authorities see these problems, or turn a blind eye, and do little to nothing to correct them because they are so entrenched in their way of doing things. In the end it's all about the money.
Thankfully, I won't be around too much longer to witness more of the same old Bovine Scattology. I'll leave war zone Earth behind and I won't look back.:rock: Good luck to all of you in the coming apocalypse.

Fin

Betonov 11-30-14 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2265175)
Thankfully, I won't be around too much longer to witness more of the same old Bovine Scattology. I'll leave war zone Earth behind and I won't look back.:rock: Good luck to all of you in the coming apocalypse.

Fin

That sounded... morbid :hmmm:

Jimbuna 11-30-14 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2265176)
That sounded... morbid :hmmm:

Yeah, that's the second similar reference from him in recent days :hmm2:

@Wolferz...I don't mean to intrude on anything that is obviously none of my business but please PM me if you think it appropriate.

Oberon 11-30-14 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo (Post 2265149)
Blacks are 7 times more likely to commit a crime in the US.

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Armistead 11-30-14 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2265169)
True that. But, Wilson put himself in a position to be assaulted. Was Wilson so arrogant that he falsely assumed he would have instant respect from a man twice his size? And that he would get immediate obedience from a possible suspect because he was wearing a badge?
I've seen the pictures of Wilson that were taken at the hospital. He only suffered a minor abrasion to his right cheek that I could see. Don't get me wrong here. I'm not saying that Michael Brown was innocent in this altercation but, neither was officer Wilson who was supposed to be a trained professional policeman. We don't know what actually transpired in the way of conversation prior to Brown seeking to grab the gun but, I'm thinking that Michael Brown had delusions of being a badass because of his size and he found out the consequences of being young and dumb and not very wise. Now he's dead. Ferguson is half burned down and a police officer is seeking employment. Hopefully in a different career field.
All of it preventable if the officer had done his job right.

First, for right or wrong and my brother n law that worked the hood for years says disrespect" is the lingo. What he means is, the banter is rather extreme from both sides and this is how they talk and communicate. Cops walking the beat or driving through hear and talk back to them the same way. Simply, if you talk and act like a pussy, the public will treat and try to run over you like one...

Wilson, as in many recent numerous cases made a mistake by closing the distance to where he could be attacked in seconds, but that isn't criminal.
OTT, having read all the witness statements, Wilson's story seems to hold truth. Those witnesses, like his friend Dorian, obvious lied. They stirred the crowd and many that didn't see anything jumped in front of the camera claiming they did, outrageous crap like Wilson shot him in the back with hands up. Luckily a large number of blacks came forward to the GJ say'n these social media camera pimps were lying and they told the truth.

Armistead 11-30-14 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2265172)
It's everyone's fault.

Brown could have not took an agresive stance against Wilson, Wilson could have responded differently or maybe even used his baton against an unarmed thug, the state could have focused more on non-lethal training for officers, the state could not have let the economy deteriorate to a level that blacks choose a thug life and not of an employed citizen (and that means not just the current administration) and let's not forget the media, the modern plague, that stoked the fires by sensational reporting.

Economics do play a role, but they shouldn't be an excuse to do crime. As I said, when we started the war on poverty in the 60's with all the govt. entitlements, we destroyed the black family unit and created the inner city ghetto. In 1940, the illegitimacy rate among blacks was 19 percent, in 1960, 22 percent, today it's over 70%. Our system rewards poor and immoral behavior. If you remain single, the more kids you have out of wedlock, the more welfare, food stamps, free housing, etc., you get. Yes, whites get more welfare, do more crime by the numbers, but percent per population, blacks being about 13%, it is much higher. With all the money govt. has thrown at entitlements, things keep getting much worse for the black race, even when the general economy is good. Today, about 45% of black males are convicted felons.

Don't know how true it is, but my good black friends says black kids are called "lottery tickets" in that they're basically ignored by a single parent until they get shot by a cop and then the parent appears to be a loving and decent parent, but just hoping for a big payout. Brown's stepfather was a felon, gang member, etc. Look at the facts, Brown was doomed from the start, passed around different family members. Brown has a sealed juvi criminal record and we learn he was known as one of the worse bullies in one of the worse schools.

Back to economics, poverty shouldn't dictate you live as a criminal. Hecks, through most of Americas history, white and black, people lived poor and without compared to those claiming poverty today. Still, families remained intact, took pride in what they had. I think today it's perception, today you see people with so much and you feel you should have it too.

Yes, a lot more could be done. Most police depts get little funding compared to the job they do. Fact is, most cities don't have the money. Be nice if all cops were required a college education, weeks of vacations, all had body cams, all had partners, instead of one to a car, advanced non lethal weapons, high pay, ......The worse cities usually have the less advanced depts...


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