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Apocal 12-22-05 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Angle
There is nothing wrong with modeling older ships. You can create earlier year scenarios like people did with SC/SCX.

Modelling is fine. Matter of fact, there are still Sprucans in DW. It's quite another thing entirely when you are making playable Sprucans and leaving whole other classes out (DDG 86s, SSN 774s, Super Hornets, SSGNs, etc). I mean, I know SCS is kinda wierd with the surface stuff (SM-2 armed OHPs and a CIWS that can shoot down your own missiles :huh:) but c'mon, at least throw us a bone and update the current database before creating the old school version.

drEaPer 12-23-05 01:06 AM

I second Oneshots proposel: The U212.

If stealth had a name, it d be U212 :)

sonar732 12-23-05 10:17 AM

Very nice arguement SpruCanFan! :up: :rock:

Kapitan 12-23-05 12:17 PM

seawolf is more advanced than the trafalgar period

but the trafalgar was one of the first SSN's to have fully touch screen systems

trafalgar is more equal to a very highly improved 688i the new astute is as capible as the new virginia but dont forget trafalgar is 80's tech seawolf is 90's

Sea Demon 12-23-05 07:48 PM

We definitely need an AEGIS add-on for surface ships. Western diesel if you're looking for new subs (ie Oyashiu, Collins, U214 :cool: ).

With the AEGIS platform, you open up whole new doors. There would be a plethora of new mission types in multi-mission surface warfare modes. You would be able to do heavy duty long-range AAW, ASuW, Deep land-strike from the surface, more involved ASW (maybe ASROCS for Arleigh Burke), naval support and interdiction, etc. The possibilities would seemingly be limitless with a Tico or Burke.

For those looking for OPFOR, why not include a playable Sovremenny (Russian/Chinese) with a Ticonderoga or Burke pack? And of course throw in that Collins for good measure too. 3 new platforms in one package.

;)

Sea Demon

Kapitan 12-23-05 07:52 PM

it would be worth putting new addon playables now its gone retail otherwise too soon you gunna find people takeing it back to the shops,

FS can do it so why cant we in a smaller capacity

drEaPer 12-23-05 08:22 PM

You talk about adding plattforms as if its done in 2 weeks.... :o

The decision what plattform to add has to be based only on player demand. It doesnt help if we have a perfect balance but no ppl buying the addon, cause they arent really interested in that plattform. The last thing I wanna see is SCS developing something nobody buys, which then leads to SCSs end in games development due to the lack of profit.
_If_ they add a new plattform with an addon, it should be one that has been selected by a majority of the player base, so that the chances are high alot DW customers will go and get it.

Sea Demon 12-23-05 08:29 PM

I'll purchase any platform they make....that's a guarantee. Even if they model the super tanker as a playable. Even so, I think we would get the most out of a Ticonderoga/ Arleigh Burke or a western diesel when the time comes. Just my opinion.

Apocal 12-23-05 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon
I'll purchase any platform they make....that's a guarantee. Even if they model the super tanker as a playable. Even so, I think we would get the most out of a Ticonderoga/ Arleigh Burke or a western diesel when the time comes. Just my opinion.

Can't say it's the same for me. If they add a platform I have no interest in, I won't buy.

Sea Demon 12-23-05 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Apocal
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Demon
I'll purchase any platform they make....that's a guarantee. Even if they model the super tanker as a playable. Even so, I think we would get the most out of a Ticonderoga/ Arleigh Burke or a western diesel when the time comes. Just my opinion.

Can't say it's the same for me. If they add a platform I have no interest in, I won't buy.

You've heard of the word "hyperbole", right? :D

Sea Demon

Kapitan 12-24-05 04:52 AM

udaloy sovremenny arliegh burke type 214/212 and a few others

CaptJodan 12-27-05 05:10 PM

While I know this topic has been covered and most of the community has opted out of the idea, the thing I keep coming back to is the lack of true multi-mission capability of the OHP verses, say, a Burke. Yes, the game is centered primarily on submarines. Of that there is no question. But what is a sub capable of? In this game, it is the ultimate multi-mission platform. It can take on and win against any surface unit if properly commanded, as well as any land target. A 688i can take on the most powerful carrier or Kirov, or go up against smaller boats if it so chose to, or hit land based targets of opportunity.

The OHP has no such versitility. It can take on light sea targets, can maybe hold it's own against a unit of similar nature to itself, but doesn't stand a chance against most surface units.

I recognize that the main advantage of a sub's defense is stealth, and that a Burke or Ticondo or Som for the Russians wouldn't have that advantage (and of course I'm not expecting the OHP to go after all these destroyers and cruisers). But adding a surface unit that has a more multi-mission capability, including defending itself against a slightly higher surface threat, would be a nice feature to have.

Mau 12-27-05 07:12 PM

Fully agree with CaptJordan!!

Sea Demon 12-27-05 07:20 PM

Definitely agree in terms of more multi-mission capabilities. While OHP is a fun ASW platform, and I'm glad to have it, it would be nice to have an Arleigh Burke to bring more capabilities to the table in terms of surface action.

Sea Demon

LuftWolf 12-27-05 07:24 PM

Why not a Nimitz, with fully playable S-3, E-2, F/A-18, and F-14? :P

Or a Harpers Ferry, with playable landing craft and individual Marines. Oooo ooo, we could have a FPS component in DW, with fully commandable squads and platoons... oh, we need to have corpsmen! And Super Cobras! And don't forget about playable AOR ships.

Is it cheating to use autocrew crane?

:-j

:hulk:

TLAM Strike 12-27-05 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LuftWolf
Why not a Nimitz, with fully playable S-3, E-2, F/A-18, and F-14? :P

WHAT thats it!! I want my playable C-2 COD damnit!

Oh and we can't forget the EA-6B and ES-3A...

:-j

:roll:

Sea Demon 12-27-05 08:23 PM

Playable MCM-1 Avenger. :cool: Oooh. Mine Warfare. :-j

Sea Demon

TLAM Strike 12-27-05 08:36 PM

We alreay got the .50 cal gun interface so we are set for its weapons. :up:

Kapitan 12-28-05 03:43 AM

id like to command an arliegh burke or a spruence but the perry frigate are so common so ugly it makes me feel sick when i command it not only that when i have one targeted it gives me plesure to scream FIRE at the top of my lungs.

the perry is 70's issue heap of scrap metal america should order some newer frigates cause a thousand bird droppings wont hold them together much longer.

soundken 12-28-05 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuftWolf
Why not a Nimitz, with fully playable S-3, E-2, F/A-18, and F-14? :P

Or a Harpers Ferry, with playable landing craft and individual Marines. Oooo ooo, we could have a FPS component in DW, with fully commandable squads and platoons... oh, we need to have corpsmen! And Super Cobras! And don't forget about playable AOR ships.

Is it cheating to use autocrew crane?

absoloutly and no cheatin autocrane usin noob is going to be allowed on any server.

and if your going to have that then dont forget that if you dont have fully playable hind helicopters t-72 tanks bdrm's and spetznaz troops with all mig and su varients in nothing but the best graphics or it just wont do
LMAO ROTF
:-j sorry guys just kiddin lw made me laugh al this is tounge in cheek


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