Quote from: Marcus Tullius Cicero

I've been playing the Total War series lately, so I have seen that quote quite a few times recently. :)

PD

:stare: So if China fight till the end....still no reason to nuke the sh!t out of it.

Nukes are for wimps and cowards. be a man and fight like one!
accept loss if it turns so.

and btw why do we, the people have to fight , why dont we put like for example

Bush and Saddam into a boxing ring and let them fight because they wanted to.

China grows less and less communist every day. Their eastern cities are already virtually indistinguishable from any other capitalist Asian city, and full of Armani retailers and Lexus dealerships.

Yes. Thats fighting with Honor *Gets Klingonic*.

Because in America, that would be considered "politically incorrect"

I remember a saying that the cold-war was not won with bullets, nor bombs, nor sabotage, nor rebellion.

No, the cold-war was won........with naught but a McDonalds restaurant:huh: .

As cynical it might be, it's pretty much a fact. :D

Does this mean China is not happy with the McDonalds already there, we should open more. :lol:

Capitalism is the world’s pacifier. Going to war with your trading partners is a sure way to trash your country’s economy. The more capitalist China becomes, the less of a threat they are. At the same time, they gain economic ground on the United States; And their military potential is a potent fulcrum of leverage.

Still, it’s a good thing that an ocean separates you people.

As far as I know, if China and the USA fights, you and I will be in there too, guaranteed :yep:
Anyway, that is what I want to believe.:D

the irony is that China AFAIK has been busy buying up a huge proportion of Americas national debt...which has got to be making life "complicated" all round..not to mention all the day to day white goods manufacturing which we have all exported to China..and probably can't afford to bring back home again... no what they want to arrange is an Al Quaeda terrorist strike on the scale of 9/11 on China...to encourage the Chinise goverment to take sides in the "war against terror"...oh you know the usual pointless shinanigens the enemy of my enemy is my friend...which basicaly sums up the USA's foriegn policy since the year dot...and probably every-one else as well..damn it it gets tediuos

I think Iran will be before China unless Taiwan ticks them off somehow and they launch a full scale attack before the newest nuc carrier gets homeported in Japan.

Taiwan is doing everything possible not to tick off China, under strict demand from the USA. :yep:

Let us presuppose that China had numerous spy sattelites orbiting Earth and often over american soil. Let us also imagine that the US government had at their disposal powerul laser guns that could blind spy sattelites. Would you hesitate to use them? I would not.


I really think if we get more wars it is not going to be between USA and China directly, but through third party states. It IS going to be the cold war all over again. I am already looking forward to this. Clancys novels has been utterly shoddy ever since the fall of the Soviet Empire :rotfl:

What makes you think they don't already?