You asked for evidence of deeds so I give you personal evidence from within my family and community. You asked for links of evidence and Abraham provides you with that evidence of deeds. What was presented to you was not mere talk but deeds. It is regretable that you ignore this with the "talk is cheap" line.

My conclusion is that you only wish to see a limited truth on this topic. But you do say that time will tell so I guess then that there is some hope for a broadening of your viewpoint.

I find it terribly unfortunate that you continue to characterize my faith "like a rabid dog." I'm afraid that I will not revert to making such disrespectful characterizations of other peoples beliefs on this forum or anywhere because I simply do not believe in that. I am all for debate and discussion but that is as far as it goes. I will remain tolerant and respectful of others here and their opinions. I will continue to discuss and debate issues be they about controversial topics such as Star-force, nuclear non-proliferation, or the latest antics of Michael Jackson. But as far as talking about my faith I really think I'm wasting my time and talking to a brick wall with some people here. For those reasons I will refrain from comment any further.

Cheers,

Benjamin.

Isn't it ironic that some of the most intolerant/racist remarks on this board come from those bible toting and my fellow Christians...

I don't know why the Moderators haven't done anything about some of the remarks on this post... don't know what can be more inflamatory than calling an entire religion "rabid dogs"

@Kanovalov, don't give up your stance on corrrecting all the disinformation and projecting a positive image of your faith... You have my respect and possibly the respect of the silent-lurker majority on this board..

Tragic Hajj stampede
 

I would love to continue the discussion with you, Iceman, since you addressed me directly earlier in your posting.
However, I have some other duties to attend; i.e. being a moderator.

You get a lot of leeway on this forum, Iceman, because you are a valued forum participant and an outspoken character.
When you wrote in an earlier post:
I started a discussion with you about generalising a billion people. Mind you, I made perfectly clear that we are not talking about extremists and/or terrorists. At that point you were still saying "they" and talking about "seem".

Now, knowingly or unknowingly, you have gone one step further.
You talk about "the Islamic faith" as a whole "like a rabid dog". and you judge: "... the Muslim Faith is Wrong".
The last remark is a generalisation that's not helping the discussion but a legitimate opinion, with the first one you have as far as I am concerned crossed the line of intolerance towards a religion (i.e. being anti-Islam) and as such offended forum members.

There's nothing against tough discussions on this forum, even attacks against religions, but there are rules. Those rules are there to make this place more or less acceptable for all of us. Your remark: is not a valid disclaimer of your responsabilities as a forum member. You'll have to express yourself in accordance with the forum rules or I'll have to close this thread.

Abraham
(with moderator cap on)